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Where it comes from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath

by JeffreyKaine 9y ago

Dylan16807 9y ago
But in that sense it's not literal at all. Again, chemotherapy.
- robotresearcher 9y ago
  And surgery, and injections, and stitching wounds, etc. Obviously it's net harm, not no harm at all.
  - pryce 9y ago
    It's not simply 'net' harm, as we would regard surgeons as breaking this principle, if they were to murder a homeless man and distribute his organs to 5 otherwise terminal patients. Medical ethics is its own field precisely because overeager and overconfident solutions are fraught with problems.
    - aethertron 9y ago
      If the principle is understood to be applicable with regard to each individual, that would seem to accord with opposition to organ theft.
    - Double_a_92 9y ago
      net harm per person then :D But what about if somebody donates a kidney...? Hm
- ceejayoz 9y ago
  Sure, but read the link. > It is often said that the phrase "First do no harm" (Latin: Primum non nocere) is a part of the Hippocratic oath. The phrase as such does not appear in the oath...
  - Ashlyn_ 9y ago
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kendallpark 9y ago
It’s a myth that doctors even take this oath. There might be some modern version taken, but it is a symbolic pledge, not a legal requirement. Laws and committees cover issues of ethics these days.
- coldtea 9y ago
  >It’s a myth that doctors even take this oath. Not really: "In a 2000 survey of US medical schools, all of the then extant medical schools administered some type of profession oath. Among schools of modern medicine, sixty-two of 122 used the Hippocratic Oath, or a modified version of it."
  - kendallpark 9y ago
    We do not take the original Hippocratic Oath. Like I said in my previous post, some schools use a modern rendition. The modern versions don't forbid surgery, the use of poison, abortive measures, or compensation for medical training--necessary features of modern healthcare. I challenge you to find me one med school that uses the original oath. Medical ethics these days follows a principle-based system. The most common framework employs four basic moral principles: respect for autonomy, beneficence, non-maleficence, and justice. The current system of ethics is far more robust than any of the pledges taken. The pledges are more about personal significance and have no legal or procedural weight.

Where it comes from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath

Dylan16807 9y ago

But in that sense it's not literal at all. Again, chemotherapy.

robotresearcher 9y ago
And surgery, and injections, and stitching wounds, etc. Obviously it's net harm, not no harm at all.
- pryce 9y ago
  It's not simply 'net' harm, as we would regard surgeons as breaking this principle, if they were to murder a homeless man and distribute his organs to 5 otherwise terminal patients. Medical ethics is its own field precisely because overeager and overconfident solutions are fraught with problems.
  - aethertron 9y ago
    If the principle is understood to be applicable with regard to each individual, that would seem to accord with opposition to organ theft.
  - Double_a_92 9y ago
    net harm per person then :D But what about if somebody donates a kidney...? Hm
ceejayoz 9y ago
Sure, but read the link. > It is often said that the phrase "First do no harm" (Latin: Primum non nocere) is a part of the Hippocratic oath. The phrase as such does not appear in the oath...
- Ashlyn_ 9y ago
  Im making over $7k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life. This is what I do, ====http://www.smartfinancemedia.com/?682 http://www.smartfinancemedia.com/?682

kendallpark 9y ago

It’s a myth that doctors even take this oath. There might be some modern version taken, but it is a symbolic pledge, not a legal requirement. Laws and committees cover issues of ethics these days.

coldtea 9y ago
>It’s a myth that doctors even take this oath. Not really: "In a 2000 survey of US medical schools, all of the then extant medical schools administered some type of profession oath. Among schools of modern medicine, sixty-two of 122 used the Hippocratic Oath, or a modified version of it."
- kendallpark 9y ago
  We do not take the original Hippocratic Oath. Like I said in my previous post, some schools use a modern rendition. The modern versions don't forbid surgery, the use of poison, abortive measures, or compensation for medical training--necessary features of modern healthcare. I challenge you to find me one med school that uses the original oath. Medical ethics these days follows a principle-based system. The most common framework employs four basic moral principles: respect for autonomy, beneficence, non-maleficence, and justice. The current system of ethics is far more robust than any of the pledges taken. The pledges are more about personal significance and have no legal or procedural weight.