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I would never recommend SQL Server on Linux for Enterprise production. - licensing costs are probably the same. If the cost of an additional Windows Server lic

I would never recommend SQL Server on Linux for Enterprise production. - licensing costs are probably the same. If the cost of an additional Windows Server license is an argument, something else is going on. - recently having dealt with MS Enterprise support on Linux, it was an horrendous experience I can nobody recommend - an Enterprise with need for SQL Server without Windows Server support engineers? - did we see independent performance tests published? A quick search I found these http://www.fhtino.it/blog/showpost.aspx?id=6790c78accb84f9c9d0ecd315ec3f450 http://www.fhtino.it/blog/showpost.aspx?id=6790c78accb84f9c9..., seemingly not a convincing argument. IMHO the whole story stinks and none of the arguments mentioned by Microsoft are valid. Probably it is all about winning hearts and minds. SQL Server on Docker images for Devs is great as these are free of licensing costs (I guess).

Alexis66 9y ago
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- tommica 9y ago
  Hmm, I think HN needs a way to report either spam messages or users - this guy was created 6 mins ago, has two comments, both spam
  - reitanqild 9y ago
    Brainstorming with you: Maybe we could have another queue /possiblespam like we have for /newest? Or we could make a competition out of it: 1point for a correct spam identification -10 for false positive
    - eterm 9y ago
      This is way off topic, but that kind of simple gamification is "broken" because there are three Nash equilibrium, only one of which is actually marking spam correctly. If everyone marks everything as spam, then anyone not also doing the same is "punished" because they are missing out on points they could get by marking more things as spam. If everyone is marking everything as "not spam" then anyone marking spam as spam correctly is punished as having "false positives" because everyone else is marking it not spam. To prevent those bad outcomes (which happen very quickly in some situations, I'll try to dig out real-world examples later) you need to know what is "really" spam and what isn't, but if you know that then you've already solved the problem you set out to solve with this system.
      - asdfgadsfgasfdg 9y ago
        HN already punishes accounts that either flag or vouch a different way to the moderators final decision. This should approach should help make the two pathological minima less likely.
      - reitanqild 9y ago
        In theory this sounds fine. Bit here are two factors that together makes scenario 1 and 2 unlikely to play out IMO: HN users seems to be a constructive crowd and mods only need to punish a few accounts visibly for users to be deterred from trying this.
  - tokenizerrr 9y ago
    There is. You click on the "X minutes ago" link, then click flag. The comments are already dead by now, meaning no one sees them unless they have "showdead" turned on in their profile.
  - vidarh 9y ago
    As others have pointed out, there is, but I have "showdead" on, and there's been a huge uptick in deliberate spam lately. They do get blocked very quickly, so hopefully they get tired of it, but it's a big change from how showdead would mostly show cranks, bad jokes, and the (very occasional) overzealous moderation.
    - heartbreak 9y ago
      I figured HN would have solved this wave of spam by now.
taspeotis 9y ago
I think it's partly a hat-tip to ISVs using .NET. Entity Framework (Core and Desktop) works best with SQL Server, with whole .NET Core is cross-platform thing they let ISVs sell to Linux shops too. The alternative would be to mix EF with PostgreSQL or (horror of horrors) MySQL which is a pain-in-the-ass for testing/QA. ORMs are leaky abstractions! If you're ponying up for a SQL Server license you can afford to pony up for the Windows license. But if you're not a Microsoft shop and you're buying .NET Core-based COTS you can skip the license fees and install SQL Server vNext Express on your Linux machines. (Up to the point where you max out Express and have to cough up for Standard anyway.)
- jmkni 9y ago
  At our place, we use ServiceStack with OrmLite, which runs well on .net core and plays nicely with MySQL. You can switch between SQL Server and MySQL by changing just one line of code.
  - martinald 9y ago
    Yes, I also love OrmLite. It's so good and I miss it when doing dev in other languages, and as you say works perfectly across different SQL backends (unlike EF which tends to blow up horribly at the worst possible time with some obscure bug).
  - j_s 9y ago
    So it is worth $250/seat + $175/yr renewal? I haven't looked at much ServiceStack stuff because of the cost.
    - jmkni 9y ago
      Well I'm the only dev at the moment so I really just need an indie dev license for myself, and it's licensed per developer, not per project etc. I think it's worth it. In my opinion, anybody working on .net ends up spending a lot of time writing what is essentially their own version of ServiceStack, on Web API. It has a lot of features that you would end up writing anyway, spend months doing so, and would probably do less well. It basically gives you a massive head start.

Alexis66 9y ago

I make up to $90 an hour working from my home. My story is that I quit working at Walmart to work online and with a little effort I easily bring in around $40h to $86h… Someone was good to me by sharing this link with me, so now i am hoping i could help someone else out there by sharing this link... Try it, you wOn't regret it!...http://www.smartfinancemedia.com/?682 http://www.smartfinancemedia.com/?682

tommica 9y ago
Hmm, I think HN needs a way to report either spam messages or users - this guy was created 6 mins ago, has two comments, both spam
- reitanqild 9y ago
  Brainstorming with you: Maybe we could have another queue /possiblespam like we have for /newest? Or we could make a competition out of it: 1point for a correct spam identification -10 for false positive
  - eterm 9y ago
    This is way off topic, but that kind of simple gamification is "broken" because there are three Nash equilibrium, only one of which is actually marking spam correctly. If everyone marks everything as spam, then anyone not also doing the same is "punished" because they are missing out on points they could get by marking more things as spam. If everyone is marking everything as "not spam" then anyone marking spam as spam correctly is punished as having "false positives" because everyone else is marking it not spam. To prevent those bad outcomes (which happen very quickly in some situations, I'll try to dig out real-world examples later) you need to know what is "really" spam and what isn't, but if you know that then you've already solved the problem you set out to solve with this system.
    - asdfgadsfgasfdg 9y ago
      HN already punishes accounts that either flag or vouch a different way to the moderators final decision. This should approach should help make the two pathological minima less likely.
    - reitanqild 9y ago
      In theory this sounds fine. Bit here are two factors that together makes scenario 1 and 2 unlikely to play out IMO: HN users seems to be a constructive crowd and mods only need to punish a few accounts visibly for users to be deterred from trying this.
- tokenizerrr 9y ago
  There is. You click on the "X minutes ago" link, then click flag. The comments are already dead by now, meaning no one sees them unless they have "showdead" turned on in their profile.
- vidarh 9y ago
  As others have pointed out, there is, but I have "showdead" on, and there's been a huge uptick in deliberate spam lately. They do get blocked very quickly, so hopefully they get tired of it, but it's a big change from how showdead would mostly show cranks, bad jokes, and the (very occasional) overzealous moderation.
  - heartbreak 9y ago
    I figured HN would have solved this wave of spam by now.

taspeotis 9y ago

I think it's partly a hat-tip to ISVs using .NET. Entity Framework (Core and Desktop) works best with SQL Server, with whole .NET Core is cross-platform thing they let ISVs sell to Linux shops too. The alternative would be to mix EF with PostgreSQL or (horror of horrors) MySQL which is a pain-in-the-ass for testing/QA. ORMs are leaky abstractions! If you're ponying up for a SQL Server license you can afford to pony up for the Windows license. But if you're not a Microsoft shop and you're buying .NET Core-based COTS you can skip the license fees and install SQL Server vNext Express on your Linux machines. (Up to the point where you max out Express and have to cough up for Standard anyway.)

jmkni 9y ago
At our place, we use ServiceStack with OrmLite, which runs well on .net core and plays nicely with MySQL. You can switch between SQL Server and MySQL by changing just one line of code.
- martinald 9y ago
  Yes, I also love OrmLite. It's so good and I miss it when doing dev in other languages, and as you say works perfectly across different SQL backends (unlike EF which tends to blow up horribly at the worst possible time with some obscure bug).
- j_s 9y ago
  So it is worth $250/seat + $175/yr renewal? I haven't looked at much ServiceStack stuff because of the cost.
  - jmkni 9y ago
    Well I'm the only dev at the moment so I really just need an indie dev license for myself, and it's licensed per developer, not per project etc. I think it's worth it. In my opinion, anybody working on .net ends up spending a lot of time writing what is essentially their own version of ServiceStack, on Web API. It has a lot of features that you would end up writing anyway, spend months doing so, and would probably do less well. It basically gives you a massive head start.