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You're actually very wrong about foreign STEM students Am I? (every US graduate school is filled with Chinese grad students and post-docs), but that's neither

• timr 16y ago
  "Am I?" Yes. "What happens immediately after they graduate?" It depends greatly on where they're from, and what they've been studying. A lot of my Chinese colleagues have gone back to China...because there are jobs there, and not here.
  • CamperBob 16y ago
    A lot of my Chinese colleagues have gone back to China...because there are jobs there, and not here. Which I think you'll find was my exact point. We may still be the world's standard in STEM education, but we aren't necessarily benefiting from that position. The world's best students come here to study, but not to live.
    • timr 16y ago
      "we're no longer a place where the world's STEM students come to study and live" That's the quote from your original comment -- the one to which I was replying. So, while you may have meant to say something else, I don't see that in the text. If anything, now you seem to be contradicting your earlier remark. Also, re-reading the original comment, I get the impression that you're arguing that we're falling behind in science and tech because of a cultural failure -- a lack of societal focus on science and technology. I don't think that's true for a variety of reasons, but the big one is the same argument raised by the article: we've out-sourced generations of technical expertise. There's little incentive for the foreign grad student to stay here, when the jobs are over there. The jobs are there because we sent them there, not because we've stopped educating American students.