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The most Apple thing ever is that they called it a "journal" and not a "blog."
by ericzawo 9y ago
The most Apple thing ever is that they called it a "journal" and not a "blog."
- Waterluvian 9y agoI'm only 30 and yet I think I've become an old "get off my lawn" man. I hate the word "blog" and find "journal" to be a nice relief. No need to differentiate your log/journal from others because its on the web. It feels like a language artifact of the dot com era alongside "surfing" and "cyber".
- sithadmin 9y agoThis isn't a 'journal' in any sense of what the word implies when referring to published materials. There's no peer review, probably no editorial board. Blog is appropriate.
- azag0 9y agoI agree. I think the closest word from the nondigital era to a "blog" would a "bulletin".
- cel1ne 9y agoIt's a journal in the sense of a scientific diary/notebook. That is also my first association. The word "journal" comes from french "jour" which translates to "day". The word blog comes from log which original comes from tabular record-keeping of ship speed.
- taco_emoji 9y agoNobody called it scientific journal. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/journal http://www.dictionary.com/browse/journal: 1. a daily record, as of occurrences, experiences, or observations[...] 3. a periodical or magazine, especially one published for a special group, learned society, or profession[...] 4. a record, usually daily, of the proceedings and transactions of a legislative body, an organization, etc.
- _delirium 9y agoThe phrase "machine learning journal" strongly implies academic journal to most machine learning researchers though, in part because that is actually in the name of several journals in the field. I don't think Apple is unaware of that either. This reads to me as quite deliberately playing on that association, to upgrade the prestige of the stuff published here vs. what it'd have if it were just a blog.
- dgacmu 9y agoThe first post is actually a summary of a CVPR paper by Apple employees. For those not familiar with it, CVPR is a top conference in computer vision.[0] Recall, of course, that "conference" for much of computer science implies the same length and degree of peer review as "journal" does in non-CS fields. [0] http://cvpr2017.thecvf.com/ http://cvpr2017.thecvf.com/
- wuliwong 9y agoI don't think that really matters. If I only post really worthy articles in my blog it doesn't become a scientific journal. I'm not saying that I believe peer-reviewed journals are the end-all-be-all for science but it does seem like Apple is being misleading with this. edit---------- Although, a company publishing a peer-reviewed scientific journal like Nature would be surprising. So maybe that isn't the common interpretation when they see the title. Maybe it isn't totally misleading. I guess I'm split on it. :)
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- dgacmu 9y agoFrom a historical perspective, so is "Journal" -- it harkens back to the days of things like the Bell System Technical Journal (published from 1922 to 1983), the IBM Systems Journal, etc.
- _delirium 9y agoBell System Technical Journal really was run like a scientific journal though, with the exception that it was "internal" to Bell. It had an editor in chief, an editorial board, papers had to be submitted for review and possibly revised before publication, etc. And the Bell Labs scientific community was large and diverse enough that I'd be comfortable calling their process peer review even though it was all done internally.
- jolux 9y agoI read it as "journal" as in like a personal journal.
- rrmm 9y agoThe proper name I think would be "Technical Reports." Not terribly catchy. But journal does make it sound like they are pretending to be science-y.
- niho 9y agoJournal does not imply peer reviewed. The word originates from Latin and simply means "daily". I.e. a periodical publication. An academic journal can be peer reviewed but that's not always the case.
- wuliwong 9y agoIt's interesting to understand the roots of words but in this case I think the relevant information to be considered is how the word is generally understood today in the context that it is currently presented.
- freshyill 9y agoNot even a DOI.
- kgwgk 9y agoHave you heard of the Linux Journal?
- freehunter 9y agoI mean, yeah if it's a personal thing about your life, the word journal might work. But blog means a lot more than that. Businesses use blogs to highlight products and upcoming events. Journalists use blogs to publish their stories. Bruce Schneier and Brian Krebs use a blog to publish research and articles they've written. 37Signals uses a blog to advertise their particular way of doing business. "Blog" is not short for "journal on the Internet", it's short for "web log" and means something far broader than "diary" that you seem to associate it with. It's not just a log/journal on the web, it's a newsletter, a flier, a classified ad, a newspaper, a document repository, a knowledge base, an event calendar, and a ton more use cases. It's all of those rolled into one. And since "journal/newsletter/advertisement/diary/repository online" is too long, we just shorten it to one four letter word: blog. The weirdest thing to me is when people say they hate specific words when no other commonly-used word exists to describe the same thing. You can't hate a word. It's the most fundamental concept of communication, that we all agree what various scribbles and noises actually mean. "Journal" has a meaning. So does "blog". They don't always overlap.
- amelius 9y agoThe word "journal" makes me think more of a scientific journal, which is something else entirely, [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_journal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_journal
- tribby 9y agohow soon we forget about livejournal :)
- rrmm 9y agoLivejournal was peer-reviewed though.
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