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I race motorcycles and also ride on the street most days, so this is a familiar topic of discussion with my wife, especially considering that we have a two-year

I race motorcycles and also ride on the street most days, so this is a familiar topic of discussion with my wife, especially considering that we have a two-year-old son. What I can say on the subject is that there's a big difference between taking every precaution to minimize risk and being careless or reckless. What stood out to me when reading this article was "why the fuck would you use a guideline that could break so easily?" and also "why wouldn't you give yourself more margin with regards to your air supply?" That's just stupid, in my opinion.

gpawl 9y ago
The day you flip out on your bike and land on your head, god forbid, the same questions will be asked of you.
- mulmen 9y ago
  That's not entirely fair. There's a wide range of motorcycle gear available. Buying the best stuff, the equivalent of high-strength line, does dramatically reduce your risk of injury or death relative to cheap or no gear. Asking if the line was the appropriate type is a valid question. A huge part of riding a motorcycle is preparing for the unexpected. Always having an escape path, knowing your limits and the limits of your gear and riding within them. I'm sure there are similar concepts for divers, it's entirely fair to ask if this diver took all the necessary precautions or if there are additional precautions that are possible.
nradov 9y ago
Cave line doesn't break easily. Having a boulder fall on it isn't a normal or expected event.
Simon_says 9y ago
There's probably an order of magnitude or two difference in risk between cave diving and motorcycle racing. Cave diving is really dangerous.
Aaargh20318 9y ago
> What I can say on the subject is that there's a big difference between taking every precaution to minimize risk and being careless or reckless. I've heard people who work in the ER refer to motorcycles as "donorcycles", apparently they are a great source of donor organs. It's probably not because they are very safe.

gpawl 9y ago

The day you flip out on your bike and land on your head, god forbid, the same questions will be asked of you.

mulmen 9y ago
That's not entirely fair. There's a wide range of motorcycle gear available. Buying the best stuff, the equivalent of high-strength line, does dramatically reduce your risk of injury or death relative to cheap or no gear. Asking if the line was the appropriate type is a valid question. A huge part of riding a motorcycle is preparing for the unexpected. Always having an escape path, knowing your limits and the limits of your gear and riding within them. I'm sure there are similar concepts for divers, it's entirely fair to ask if this diver took all the necessary precautions or if there are additional precautions that are possible.

nradov 9y ago

Cave line doesn't break easily. Having a boulder fall on it isn't a normal or expected event.

Simon_says 9y ago

There's probably an order of magnitude or two difference in risk between cave diving and motorcycle racing. Cave diving is really dangerous.

Aaargh20318 9y ago

> What I can say on the subject is that there's a big difference between taking every precaution to minimize risk and being careless or reckless. I've heard people who work in the ER refer to motorcycles as "donorcycles", apparently they are a great source of donor organs. It's probably not because they are very safe.