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The next generation of fake news is going to be fantastic.

avaer 9y ago
I look forward to a time when journalists doing journalism is what's valued in the news. When technology to fake things is everywhere, maybe we'll pay for accurate newspapers again. With something other than our willingness to be manipulated by advertising.
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- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > When technology to fake things is everywhere, maybe we'll pay for accurate newspapers again. We didn't pay for them before, how could we do so again? Advertisers have always been the main funding for newspapers and sensationalism (clickbait before clicks) and propaganda have always been major influences on the medium. Sure, things got worse for decades leading up to the arrival of internet news, and continued to get worse after that, but the golden age of readers footing the bill for accurate newspapers never happened.
  - avaer 9y ago
    This is kind of a slap in the face to anyone who's considered themselves a journalist, as well as anyone who bought a newspaper for the news. It also makes me wonder how the news industry ever got started if it never sold "news", but only something wrapped in that veil. I don't know anything about the history of news; do you have any good reading material to recommend?
- untog 9y ago
  Problem is, there are always moments journalists aren't present for. Think Romney's "48%", Hillary's "deplorable", Trump's "grab em by the pussy". In all of those situations the video evidence is what proved the story. Without that all a journalist can do is trust the accounts of the people present, which aren't trustworthy at all.
- anotherbrownguy 9y ago
  You assume that news has ever been accurate. I would argue that the "news" in the past was not more accurate. The revolution that has happened is that we are much better at detecting fake news. "A person said something? That's terrible... let me see for myself what he actually said... oh wait he said that in completely different context and didn't mean what was implied in the news at all." - Anyone who has checked primary source after reading a news article We are no longer at the mercy of "journalists" to tell us what to think about what happened. They can be called out on their lies and misrepresentation as the same raw videos of what happened can be seen by people first-hand. How about asking person in question to clarify what they meant? We can do that too. The news organizations, as a defense, have been publishing the "news" as "opinion pieces", "satire" and "comedy" which they can more easily walk back on when called out. All this because they have an old population who hasn't figured out that one can actually be their own journalist a lot of the times by following people who are much closer to different sides of situation than "journalists" will ever be... and the reported news is ALWAYS a completely different version of what actually happened. When this population dies out, the mainstream fake news as we know it, will die with them.
turc1656 9y ago
My thoughts exactly. We're skipping fake news v2 and going straight to 3.0. Fake news has just entered a rapid release schedule. Brace yourself.

I look forward to a time when journalists doing journalism is what's valued in the news. When technology to fake things is everywhere, maybe we'll pay for accurate newspapers again. With something other than our willingness to be manipulated by advertising.

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dragonwriter 9y ago
> When technology to fake things is everywhere, maybe we'll pay for accurate newspapers again. We didn't pay for them before, how could we do so again? Advertisers have always been the main funding for newspapers and sensationalism (clickbait before clicks) and propaganda have always been major influences on the medium. Sure, things got worse for decades leading up to the arrival of internet news, and continued to get worse after that, but the golden age of readers footing the bill for accurate newspapers never happened.
- avaer 9y ago
  This is kind of a slap in the face to anyone who's considered themselves a journalist, as well as anyone who bought a newspaper for the news. It also makes me wonder how the news industry ever got started if it never sold "news", but only something wrapped in that veil. I don't know anything about the history of news; do you have any good reading material to recommend?
untog 9y ago
Problem is, there are always moments journalists aren't present for. Think Romney's "48%", Hillary's "deplorable", Trump's "grab em by the pussy". In all of those situations the video evidence is what proved the story. Without that all a journalist can do is trust the accounts of the people present, which aren't trustworthy at all.
anotherbrownguy 9y ago
You assume that news has ever been accurate. I would argue that the "news" in the past was not more accurate. The revolution that has happened is that we are much better at detecting fake news. "A person said something? That's terrible... let me see for myself what he actually said... oh wait he said that in completely different context and didn't mean what was implied in the news at all." - Anyone who has checked primary source after reading a news article We are no longer at the mercy of "journalists" to tell us what to think about what happened. They can be called out on their lies and misrepresentation as the same raw videos of what happened can be seen by people first-hand. How about asking person in question to clarify what they meant? We can do that too. The news organizations, as a defense, have been publishing the "news" as "opinion pieces", "satire" and "comedy" which they can more easily walk back on when called out. All this because they have an old population who hasn't figured out that one can actually be their own journalist a lot of the times by following people who are much closer to different sides of situation than "journalists" will ever be... and the reported news is ALWAYS a completely different version of what actually happened. When this population dies out, the mainstream fake news as we know it, will die with them.

turc1656 9y ago

My thoughts exactly. We're skipping fake news v2 and going straight to 3.0. Fake news has just entered a rapid release schedule. Brace yourself.