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I'm old enough to not care sometimes and to play the game sometimes and to know the difference Tell a suit wearer that they should dress casual tomorrow and th

by gaius 9y ago

I'm old enough to not care sometimes and to play the game sometimes and to know the difference Tell a suit wearer that they should dress casual tomorrow and they'll say OK. Tell a geek they have to wear a suit tomorrow and they'll freak out. Now tell me who cares more about clothes?

samstave 9y ago
Hmm.. that's a good point actually with a slight rebuttal: The suit wearer also has a closet full of casual clothes The casual wearer will not have a line of suits - thus his freak out What is the payscale between the both vs type of work and hours? Would be great to get a map of all this
- gaius 9y ago
  What is the payscale between the both vs type of work A hoodie-wearer at FB or Apple probably out-earns the majority of suit-wearers at Goldman - it is definitely not about money, just about attitude.
  - user5994461 9y ago
    >>> A hoodie-wearer at FB or Apple probably out-earns the majority of suit-wearers at Goldman - it is definitely not about money, just about attitude. Sorry but it's highly unlikely.
    - ska 9y ago
      True. There is a broader point that holds though, average tech salaries are above or equal to some careers that assume daily suits, even if NYC investment banking isn't one of them. I think it's mostly tribal signalling, " I am not a suit" kind of thing. Although never having to deal with dry cleaning is an incentive, too.
    - throwu383 9y ago
      As a current Goldman Strat I can confirm that the hoodie-wearer is certainly out earning the majority. Only the traders are paid well, everyone else is on a less than competitive wage based on an illusion of how it "used to be". Historically (10+ years ago) the total compensation was accounted for by a big bonus but these days it is non existent. Almost every VP I know in NYC/LDN makes less than a fresh grad at Google in the bay area.

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I'm old enough to not care sometimes and to play the game sometimes and to know the difference Tell a suit wearer that they should dress casual tomorrow and th

by gaius 9y ago

samstave 9y ago
Hmm.. that's a good point actually with a slight rebuttal: The suit wearer also has a closet full of casual clothes The casual wearer will not have a line of suits - thus his freak out What is the payscale between the both vs type of work and hours? Would be great to get a map of all this
- gaius 9y ago
  What is the payscale between the both vs type of work A hoodie-wearer at FB or Apple probably out-earns the majority of suit-wearers at Goldman - it is definitely not about money, just about attitude.
  - user5994461 9y ago
    >>> A hoodie-wearer at FB or Apple probably out-earns the majority of suit-wearers at Goldman - it is definitely not about money, just about attitude. Sorry but it's highly unlikely.
    - ska 9y ago
      True. There is a broader point that holds though, average tech salaries are above or equal to some careers that assume daily suits, even if NYC investment banking isn't one of them. I think it's mostly tribal signalling, " I am not a suit" kind of thing. Although never having to deal with dry cleaning is an incentive, too.
    - throwu383 9y ago
      As a current Goldman Strat I can confirm that the hoodie-wearer is certainly out earning the majority. Only the traders are paid well, everyone else is on a less than competitive wage based on an illusion of how it "used to be". Historically (10+ years ago) the total compensation was accounted for by a big bonus but these days it is non existent. Almost every VP I know in NYC/LDN makes less than a fresh grad at Google in the bay area.