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Honestly, one of the things I absolutely love about tech/Silicon Valley is nobody cares at all how you dress. LOL the "hoodie code" is 10x stronger than any su

by gaius 9y ago

Honestly, one of the things I absolutely love about tech/Silicon Valley is nobody cares at all how you dress. LOL the "hoodie code" is 10x stronger than any suit code.

samstave 9y ago
Honest question: how old are you? If you're even the slightest bit concerned with anything anyone is wearing, then you need to focus on something else.
- gaius 9y ago
  I'm old enough to not care sometimes and to play the game sometimes and to know the difference Tell a suit wearer that they should dress casual tomorrow and they'll say OK. Tell a geek they have to wear a suit tomorrow and they'll freak out. Now tell me who cares more about clothes?
  - samstave 9y ago
    Hmm.. that's a good point actually with a slight rebuttal: The suit wearer also has a closet full of casual clothes The casual wearer will not have a line of suits - thus his freak out What is the payscale between the both vs type of work and hours? Would be great to get a map of all this
    - gaius 9y ago
      What is the payscale between the both vs type of work A hoodie-wearer at FB or Apple probably out-earns the majority of suit-wearers at Goldman - it is definitely not about money, just about attitude.
      - user5994461 9y ago
        >>> A hoodie-wearer at FB or Apple probably out-earns the majority of suit-wearers at Goldman - it is definitely not about money, just about attitude. Sorry but it's highly unlikely.
        ska 9y ago
        True. There is a broader point that holds though, average tech salaries are above or equal to some careers that assume daily suits, even if NYC investment banking isn't one of them. I think it's mostly tribal signalling, " I am not a suit" kind of thing. Although never having to deal with dry cleaning is an incentive, too.
        throwu383 9y ago
        As a current Goldman Strat I can confirm that the hoodie-wearer is certainly out earning the majority. Only the traders are paid well, everyone else is on a less than competitive wage based on an illusion of how it "used to be". Historically (10+ years ago) the total compensation was accounted for by a big bonus but these days it is non existent. Almost every VP I know in NYC/LDN makes less than a fresh grad at Google in the bay area.

by gaius 9y ago

Honestly, one of the things I absolutely love about tech/Silicon Valley is nobody cares at all how you dress. LOL the "hoodie code" is 10x stronger than any suit code.

samstave 9y ago

Honest question: how old are you? If you're even the slightest bit concerned with anything anyone is wearing, then you need to focus on something else.

gaius 9y ago
I'm old enough to not care sometimes and to play the game sometimes and to know the difference Tell a suit wearer that they should dress casual tomorrow and they'll say OK. Tell a geek they have to wear a suit tomorrow and they'll freak out. Now tell me who cares more about clothes?
- samstave 9y ago
  Hmm.. that's a good point actually with a slight rebuttal: The suit wearer also has a closet full of casual clothes The casual wearer will not have a line of suits - thus his freak out What is the payscale between the both vs type of work and hours? Would be great to get a map of all this
  - gaius 9y ago
    What is the payscale between the both vs type of work A hoodie-wearer at FB or Apple probably out-earns the majority of suit-wearers at Goldman - it is definitely not about money, just about attitude.
    - user5994461 9y ago
      >>> A hoodie-wearer at FB or Apple probably out-earns the majority of suit-wearers at Goldman - it is definitely not about money, just about attitude. Sorry but it's highly unlikely.
      - ska 9y ago
        True. There is a broader point that holds though, average tech salaries are above or equal to some careers that assume daily suits, even if NYC investment banking isn't one of them. I think it's mostly tribal signalling, " I am not a suit" kind of thing. Although never having to deal with dry cleaning is an incentive, too.
      - throwu383 9y ago
        As a current Goldman Strat I can confirm that the hoodie-wearer is certainly out earning the majority. Only the traders are paid well, everyone else is on a less than competitive wage based on an illusion of how it "used to be". Historically (10+ years ago) the total compensation was accounted for by a big bonus but these days it is non existent. Almost every VP I know in NYC/LDN makes less than a fresh grad at Google in the bay area.