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I live in SE Asia (Thailand) and although I'm fascinated by China, my experience with Chinese tourists has turned me off visiting the mainland completely. They

by pentae 9y ago

I live in SE Asia (Thailand) and although I'm fascinated by China, my experience with Chinese tourists has turned me off visiting the mainland completely. They are more often than not incredibly loud, rude and lack almost all basic human courtesy we take for granted in the west and even in asian countries like Thailand. They will push past you in queues, yell mandarin loudly in your face to others behind you, stand in the middle of the street blocking traffic, play videos on their phone speaker on full volume without using headphones - I could go on and on and on. There's absolutely zero consideration for anyone but themselves and are, by a wide margin, the rudest tourists i've ever encountered anywhere. I can't help but wonder if it's just the type Chinese tourists that visit Thailand and mainland China would be different, but its just not a risk i'm willing to take.

myrandomcomment 9y ago
In London with the family. Spent the day at the British Museum. Full of people from all over the world. It was crowded. However if an path was blocked it was Chinese tour group with no regard for the others around them. The tour groups from other nations kept a clear path. It's really sad that such a rich culture with a rich history has such lost generation of rude people.
dis-sys 9y ago
Most of those annoying and stupid individuals are from the so called China's Lost Generation. I found the following video made by two westerners explains the reasons in a pretty accurate way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Dh2gFX4Mg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Dh2gFX4Mg
- goobynight 9y ago
  Shoutout to the whole ADV China channel. As an expat in Hong Kong that rides motorcycles, I enjoy their stuff a lot.
  - dis-sys 9y ago
    can't wait for their upcoming conquering northern china series.
- magicbuzz 9y ago
  That is a great link. Very interesting to a possible future visitor. But to be honest, the more I hear the less inclined to go I am.
- ryenus 9y ago
  The guys in the video are mostly correct. The problems with the lost generation are sophisticated, partially caused by the lack of education, but also the wrecked economy at Mao's era, worse than that of North Korea these days. Even worse, Mao blindly followed Russia to encourage baby booming, and there were consecutive 3-year natural disasters around 1960, consequently all these caused severe national wide food shortage. Lots of people died of starvation, for the rest, they had to do everything to just survive, regardless the means were either moral or evil. That's where the lost generation came from. Would they care Confucius? of cause not, part of Mao's culture r8n actually encouraged them to somehow not to believe in the traditional culture, of many that includes Confucius. Fast forward to now, people of the lost generation are mostly retired and free, and some also have the money to tour around, definitely not all, but given the overall population that's a huge number of people, especially when compared to other places in the world, no wonder they were called locust in HK. Luckily, things improved a lot, both the education system and economy wise, that's why you can see the young generation, who you probably communicated with, are mostly kind, or at least much better compared to the lost generation, and they'll bring even better education and economy to the following generations. I'm holding a good faith, and hopefully so are you.
- mistermann 9y ago
  That's a very interesting video, I had no idea part of "the lost generation" culture was that they were explicitly taught an attitude of arrogance, "we can do whatever we want, there are no rules". Matches reality very well.
woutr_be 9y ago
As someone who lives in Hong Kong, I can totally relate to how you feel about Mainland tourists. But that said, I love visiting China, most people there are extremely friendly and helpful. Sure, you might see some weird things once in a while, but you see that everywhere. The misbehaving Chinese tourists shouldn't keep you from visiting China. It's a massive country with a lot of different groups of people. They're not all the same.
- germainelol 9y ago
  Also living in HK and used to live in Guangzhou. Most of the time you wouldn't know if you were stood next to someone from China or HK on the MTR. However, I do find it kinda funny when a loud, obnoxious, suitcase wielding tourist steps onto the train and you can see people thinking to themselves "Yep, mainlander". Or maybe that's just me, who knows.
karkanshop 9y ago
China has a huge population, even 80% of them behave nicely, there are still quite a giant group of people who are not that behaving well. And as the rapid economic development in last decades, some of those who are ignorant got the money to travel abroad. Chinese Tourists also dislike them a lot, Gov has been taking measures to blacklist them if they did anything violates the rules in sightseeings .Sorry for your unpleasant time you've had with some Chinese tourists. Be sure to visit China, there are something unique there, especially some ancient relics : )
baconizer 9y ago
Took my family to Thailand two years ago and we (2 generations born and raised in No.3 on the city list) were surprised too, literally had to extend our stay in Koh Samui island to avoid the shame from fellow Chinese speakers in Bangkok..
helb 9y ago
> my experience with Chinese tourists has turned me off visiting the mainland completely. Don't let this keep you from visiting mainland China. Tourists from most countries seem to be far more asshole-ish than locals in general. I went to China in 2011 (Shaighai – Xiamen – Hong Kong) and it was a great experience.
- j7ake 9y ago
  My theory is that for some reason the class of Chinese people who can afford to travel to western countries somehow enriches for ones who are somewhat rude.
germainelol 9y ago
Nope, this is a pretty good summary of all Chinese tourists and, for the most part, a good summary of what it's like getting around China. As others have said though, I wouldn't let this put you off visiting China. There are some really incredible places in China, and most people are really, really friendly. Most of the time, people are more than willing to help you out, especially if you're white (sad, but true). And as long as you don't go during Chinese holidays (Feb or Oct) then it won't be too bad travelling around the country.
Baeocystin 9y ago
If you get outside the cities, you will meet a ton of genuinely friendly, interesting people. City life in China is rather... Mercenary. (nb- I may be a poor judge, as I don't particularly enjoy living in cities anywhere, regardless of continent.) (nb2- I used to live on the outskirts of Vientiane, Laos, and loved it. Except for the monkeys. And the fact that that half my family loves durian. But that is a subject for a different post.)
finolex1 9y ago
I have experiences with the same type of behavior in India, and a lot of it has got to do with the highly competitive and crowded environment here. If you want access to government services/get served by staff/get onto a bus etc. you will need to be prepared to jostle your way through and be louder than everyone else. 'Personal Space' isn't really a concept that is prevalent here. This manifests itself in some annoying behaviors like jumping queues, or rushing out of your seats as soon as a plane lands, but also gives rise to some great features - people are rarely wary of strangers, and seem to be more likely to share things or help out one another. Either way, this hardly seems like a deal breaker in deciding what places to visit. There are a lot of factors - natural beauty, history, culture, food, economic development, etc. that are arguably a lot more important.
- mistermann 9y ago
  I can't recall a single instance of an Indian person doing this anywhere in the world I've been to (I haven't been to India itself), leading me to believe they are conscious of their behavior, unlike Chinese mainlanders where it seems to be unconscious instinct.
  - viewtransform 9y ago
    Most immigrants strive to fit in with those aspects of the host culture that they appreciate. Every immigrant to the US changes their behavior: don't litter, obey traffic rules, stand in the queue, it's okay to smile at strangers etc because they see that everyone else is doing it and it makes life better. However, this article is about tourists who have no stake in fitting in and will be on a plane back home in a few days.
  - harichinnan 9y ago
    The Indians outside of India are most probably not tourists. India is yet to gain Chinese level wealth. Unfortunately a trip to India would tarnish your image of us. It's a crowded third world country with third world facilities.
SirHound 9y ago
This opinion is probably the single greatest unifier I've experienced when visiting different countries.
sitepodmatt 9y ago
It's not unique to Thailand. HKGers hate them (mainlanders) too, locust they are referred to. Invasion of personal space is another issue, when they do queue they practically breathe on your neck, or worse sneeze as they havent heard of holding their mouth. Btw, also living in Thailand. I don't think there is any deliberate malice in it, but consideration for themselves and their family only and solely, is evident and consistent, this aint a bad apple issue. The tour operators and charter flight providers could do more prearrival education in my opinion, fake modern manners for all I care. I feel very sorry for flight attendants in asia, always a good chat about the subject if sat opposite jump seat
- fewers 9y ago
  Disliking the mainland is part of Hong Kong's identity. While initially shocking if you go back and forth enough you start appreciating the lesser rules of the mainland and realize that HK is still quite colonial. And while mainlanders won't say "yes sir", or speak English, they are generally quite friendly, curious and genuine. Of course a sense of humor often also helps.
chj 9y ago
They are probably just too excited for the first time abroad. Eventually we all get bored.
accountyaccount 9y ago
Does anyone know if the Chinese government has done any public education campaign on the issue? It often seems as mainlanders just don't know — they'll literally spit on the floor of a bus.
jdietrich 9y ago
American tourists have an appalling reputation in most of the world, but I wouldn't take that as a reason not to visit America. Most of the stereotypes of Chinese tourists equally apply to Americans. I think that in both cases, the causes are essentially the same - inexperience. American and Chinese people have very little vacation time. They're both big countries, so there's a lot to see and do domestically. It's quite normal for a European to have travelled abroad several times a year since childhood, but a very large proportion of American and Chinese tourists have little or no experience of international travel. A lack of experience and the desire to cram a lot into a short trip encourages large group tours, which are inherently more disruptive than independent travellers. It's hard to be thoughtful and polite when you're being hustled from one Kodak moment to the next. It's hard to blend in with the locals when you're in a group of 30 foreign tourists. It's hard to pick up on the local etiquette when you've blasted through six countries in as many days; it's doubly hard when you're from an unusually extroverted culture. Savvy Americans have started to leave the tour bus behind, learn the art of travel and buck the stereotypes. I'm sure that Chinese travellers will follow the same path.
- cylinder 9y ago
  It has nothing to do with group trips. Even the mainland Chinese living in Sydney are like this. Their kids who study abroad can be better. If anything the tourists are a bit more chill.
  - jdietrich 9y ago
    I can't speak to the Australian situation, but the vast numbers of Chinese students in the UK are predominantly polite and respectful. That's no mean feat when you consider the subtle, complex and rather passive-aggressive nature of British etiquette.
  - contravert 9y ago
    I don't say this often, but this is straight up racism. You're painting an enormous group of people with a lazy and ignorant stereotype.
matwood 9y ago
I've seen this exact thing during my travels all over Europe. While on a train in Norway I watched a tiny older Chinese lady push over a young British woman in order to get to the window so she could take a picture.
jjcc 9y ago
Your observation is correct. As an ethnic Chinese I'm sorry and apologize for that. Many Chinese and government know that's true. As result, all Chinese mobile phone users will receive a text message from Chinese embassies when they are landed to foreign countries even inside airplane (at least US and Canada ) reminding them(mobile phone carrier) to respect local custom and culture, especially don't speak aloud in public areas. There are many reasons for that. A obvious one is quick economic growth makes many less educated normal people can afford previously luxury tourism. But there are more profound reasons. Unfortunately, researches and studies of personality statistics of vary large group of people(for example, behavior of an ethnic group) are very difficult and most importantly: they are politically incorrect, considered harmful and forbidden, as well as the conclusions will not be accepted by public. So most people on the earth don't know the real reasons behind that but only have fake explanations that modern human mind can accept. BTW off the topic. with same understanding, I predicted early in 2003 that Bush's goal of Iraq war would fail FOR SURE by observation of similarity of statistical (i.e. population) mindsets between middle east people and Chinese people. The good news is things are changing slowly towards the good direction. The habit and behavior of Chinese people, especially young generation and educated people are more and more closer to that of Japanese, Hongkonger, Taiwan people. But it will take long long time, maybe generations.
- amirmc 9y ago
  > Unfortunately, researches and studies of personality statistics of vary large group of people(for example, behavior of an ethnic group) are very difficult and most importantly: they are politically incorrect, considered harmful and forbidden, as well as the conclusions will not be accepted by public. Do you mean politically incorrect in China? Otherwise, I'd just call this kind of study Anthropology (of some form).
  - mistermann 9y ago
    In my experience, most Westerners (well, moreso under the age of 40) seem to believe there is literally no such thing as culture, almost as if it is a completely imaginary concept.
sporkenfang 9y ago
Possibly, but where I live we get the same sort of tourists from China. I'd love to see some of the more interesting parts of Chinese history in person, but I'm not entirely sure I want to brave a whole lot of people acting like that to get to them.
thejay 9y ago
I wonder who's loss it is that you don't visit due to a potential minor inconvenience.
_pastel 9y ago
I'm curious: have you had those experiences everywhere in Thailand, or only at the most famous tourist sites? I've read this about Chinese tourists for years. But all the Mainlander tourists I've spotted in Taiwan and Hong Kong have been normally behaved, which has always been mildly disappointing. Until I finally visited some of the more touristy Thailand temples and saw the behavior you describe. My theory is that the sort of Chinese tourist who fits this stereotype will almost exclusively follow a guided itinerary with a big tour group.
rubatuga 9y ago
I think we should remember that although this may be the case today, cultures of the younger generation can change quickly. Also, although you haven’t explicitly stated this, it can be extremely easy to dismiss or judge a whole country based on this, so make sure to keep an open mind.
anonicasjuly 9y ago
This is how I feel about Australia. All of the Australians I have seen in SE Asia are sex tourists so I can't help but wonder if it's just the type Australian tourists that visit SE Asia and Australia would be different, but its just not a risk i'm willing to take.
Accacin 9y ago
I don't agree with you. Here in the UK most of the Chinese tourists we get here are perfectly fine and don't display any of the behavior you've spoken about.

by pentae 9y ago

myrandomcomment 9y ago

In London with the family. Spent the day at the British Museum. Full of people from all over the world. It was crowded. However if an path was blocked it was Chinese tour group with no regard for the others around them. The tour groups from other nations kept a clear path. It's really sad that such a rich culture with a rich history has such lost generation of rude people.

dis-sys 9y ago

Most of those annoying and stupid individuals are from the so called China's Lost Generation. I found the following video made by two westerners explains the reasons in a pretty accurate way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Dh2gFX4Mg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Dh2gFX4Mg

goobynight 9y ago
Shoutout to the whole ADV China channel. As an expat in Hong Kong that rides motorcycles, I enjoy their stuff a lot.
- dis-sys 9y ago
  can't wait for their upcoming conquering northern china series.
magicbuzz 9y ago
That is a great link. Very interesting to a possible future visitor. But to be honest, the more I hear the less inclined to go I am.
ryenus 9y ago
The guys in the video are mostly correct. The problems with the lost generation are sophisticated, partially caused by the lack of education, but also the wrecked economy at Mao's era, worse than that of North Korea these days. Even worse, Mao blindly followed Russia to encourage baby booming, and there were consecutive 3-year natural disasters around 1960, consequently all these caused severe national wide food shortage. Lots of people died of starvation, for the rest, they had to do everything to just survive, regardless the means were either moral or evil. That's where the lost generation came from. Would they care Confucius? of cause not, part of Mao's culture r8n actually encouraged them to somehow not to believe in the traditional culture, of many that includes Confucius. Fast forward to now, people of the lost generation are mostly retired and free, and some also have the money to tour around, definitely not all, but given the overall population that's a huge number of people, especially when compared to other places in the world, no wonder they were called locust in HK. Luckily, things improved a lot, both the education system and economy wise, that's why you can see the young generation, who you probably communicated with, are mostly kind, or at least much better compared to the lost generation, and they'll bring even better education and economy to the following generations. I'm holding a good faith, and hopefully so are you.
mistermann 9y ago
That's a very interesting video, I had no idea part of "the lost generation" culture was that they were explicitly taught an attitude of arrogance, "we can do whatever we want, there are no rules". Matches reality very well.

woutr_be 9y ago

As someone who lives in Hong Kong, I can totally relate to how you feel about Mainland tourists. But that said, I love visiting China, most people there are extremely friendly and helpful. Sure, you might see some weird things once in a while, but you see that everywhere. The misbehaving Chinese tourists shouldn't keep you from visiting China. It's a massive country with a lot of different groups of people. They're not all the same.

germainelol 9y ago
Also living in HK and used to live in Guangzhou. Most of the time you wouldn't know if you were stood next to someone from China or HK on the MTR. However, I do find it kinda funny when a loud, obnoxious, suitcase wielding tourist steps onto the train and you can see people thinking to themselves "Yep, mainlander". Or maybe that's just me, who knows.

karkanshop 9y ago

China has a huge population, even 80% of them behave nicely, there are still quite a giant group of people who are not that behaving well. And as the rapid economic development in last decades, some of those who are ignorant got the money to travel abroad. Chinese Tourists also dislike them a lot, Gov has been taking measures to blacklist them if they did anything violates the rules in sightseeings .Sorry for your unpleasant time you've had with some Chinese tourists. Be sure to visit China, there are something unique there, especially some ancient relics : )

baconizer 9y ago

Took my family to Thailand two years ago and we (2 generations born and raised in No.3 on the city list) were surprised too, literally had to extend our stay in Koh Samui island to avoid the shame from fellow Chinese speakers in Bangkok..

helb 9y ago

> my experience with Chinese tourists has turned me off visiting the mainland completely. Don't let this keep you from visiting mainland China. Tourists from most countries seem to be far more asshole-ish than locals in general. I went to China in 2011 (Shaighai – Xiamen – Hong Kong) and it was a great experience.

j7ake 9y ago
My theory is that for some reason the class of Chinese people who can afford to travel to western countries somehow enriches for ones who are somewhat rude.

germainelol 9y ago

Nope, this is a pretty good summary of all Chinese tourists and, for the most part, a good summary of what it's like getting around China. As others have said though, I wouldn't let this put you off visiting China. There are some really incredible places in China, and most people are really, really friendly. Most of the time, people are more than willing to help you out, especially if you're white (sad, but true). And as long as you don't go during Chinese holidays (Feb or Oct) then it won't be too bad travelling around the country.

Baeocystin 9y ago

If you get outside the cities, you will meet a ton of genuinely friendly, interesting people. City life in China is rather... Mercenary. (nb- I may be a poor judge, as I don't particularly enjoy living in cities anywhere, regardless of continent.) (nb2- I used to live on the outskirts of Vientiane, Laos, and loved it. Except for the monkeys. And the fact that that half my family loves durian. But that is a subject for a different post.)

finolex1 9y ago

I have experiences with the same type of behavior in India, and a lot of it has got to do with the highly competitive and crowded environment here. If you want access to government services/get served by staff/get onto a bus etc. you will need to be prepared to jostle your way through and be louder than everyone else. 'Personal Space' isn't really a concept that is prevalent here. This manifests itself in some annoying behaviors like jumping queues, or rushing out of your seats as soon as a plane lands, but also gives rise to some great features - people are rarely wary of strangers, and seem to be more likely to share things or help out one another. Either way, this hardly seems like a deal breaker in deciding what places to visit. There are a lot of factors - natural beauty, history, culture, food, economic development, etc. that are arguably a lot more important.

mistermann 9y ago
I can't recall a single instance of an Indian person doing this anywhere in the world I've been to (I haven't been to India itself), leading me to believe they are conscious of their behavior, unlike Chinese mainlanders where it seems to be unconscious instinct.
- viewtransform 9y ago
  Most immigrants strive to fit in with those aspects of the host culture that they appreciate. Every immigrant to the US changes their behavior: don't litter, obey traffic rules, stand in the queue, it's okay to smile at strangers etc because they see that everyone else is doing it and it makes life better. However, this article is about tourists who have no stake in fitting in and will be on a plane back home in a few days.
- harichinnan 9y ago
  The Indians outside of India are most probably not tourists. India is yet to gain Chinese level wealth. Unfortunately a trip to India would tarnish your image of us. It's a crowded third world country with third world facilities.

SirHound 9y ago

This opinion is probably the single greatest unifier I've experienced when visiting different countries.

sitepodmatt 9y ago

It's not unique to Thailand. HKGers hate them (mainlanders) too, locust they are referred to. Invasion of personal space is another issue, when they do queue they practically breathe on your neck, or worse sneeze as they havent heard of holding their mouth. Btw, also living in Thailand. I don't think there is any deliberate malice in it, but consideration for themselves and their family only and solely, is evident and consistent, this aint a bad apple issue. The tour operators and charter flight providers could do more prearrival education in my opinion, fake modern manners for all I care. I feel very sorry for flight attendants in asia, always a good chat about the subject if sat opposite jump seat

fewers 9y ago
Disliking the mainland is part of Hong Kong's identity. While initially shocking if you go back and forth enough you start appreciating the lesser rules of the mainland and realize that HK is still quite colonial. And while mainlanders won't say "yes sir", or speak English, they are generally quite friendly, curious and genuine. Of course a sense of humor often also helps.

chj 9y ago

They are probably just too excited for the first time abroad. Eventually we all get bored.

accountyaccount 9y ago

Does anyone know if the Chinese government has done any public education campaign on the issue? It often seems as mainlanders just don't know — they'll literally spit on the floor of a bus.

jdietrich 9y ago

American tourists have an appalling reputation in most of the world, but I wouldn't take that as a reason not to visit America. Most of the stereotypes of Chinese tourists equally apply to Americans. I think that in both cases, the causes are essentially the same - inexperience. American and Chinese people have very little vacation time. They're both big countries, so there's a lot to see and do domestically. It's quite normal for a European to have travelled abroad several times a year since childhood, but a very large proportion of American and Chinese tourists have little or no experience of international travel. A lack of experience and the desire to cram a lot into a short trip encourages large group tours, which are inherently more disruptive than independent travellers. It's hard to be thoughtful and polite when you're being hustled from one Kodak moment to the next. It's hard to blend in with the locals when you're in a group of 30 foreign tourists. It's hard to pick up on the local etiquette when you've blasted through six countries in as many days; it's doubly hard when you're from an unusually extroverted culture. Savvy Americans have started to leave the tour bus behind, learn the art of travel and buck the stereotypes. I'm sure that Chinese travellers will follow the same path.

cylinder 9y ago
It has nothing to do with group trips. Even the mainland Chinese living in Sydney are like this. Their kids who study abroad can be better. If anything the tourists are a bit more chill.
- jdietrich 9y ago
  I can't speak to the Australian situation, but the vast numbers of Chinese students in the UK are predominantly polite and respectful. That's no mean feat when you consider the subtle, complex and rather passive-aggressive nature of British etiquette.
- contravert 9y ago
  I don't say this often, but this is straight up racism. You're painting an enormous group of people with a lazy and ignorant stereotype.

matwood 9y ago

I've seen this exact thing during my travels all over Europe. While on a train in Norway I watched a tiny older Chinese lady push over a young British woman in order to get to the window so she could take a picture.

jjcc 9y ago

Your observation is correct. As an ethnic Chinese I'm sorry and apologize for that. Many Chinese and government know that's true. As result, all Chinese mobile phone users will receive a text message from Chinese embassies when they are landed to foreign countries even inside airplane (at least US and Canada ) reminding them(mobile phone carrier) to respect local custom and culture, especially don't speak aloud in public areas. There are many reasons for that. A obvious one is quick economic growth makes many less educated normal people can afford previously luxury tourism. But there are more profound reasons. Unfortunately, researches and studies of personality statistics of vary large group of people(for example, behavior of an ethnic group) are very difficult and most importantly: they are politically incorrect, considered harmful and forbidden, as well as the conclusions will not be accepted by public. So most people on the earth don't know the real reasons behind that but only have fake explanations that modern human mind can accept. BTW off the topic. with same understanding, I predicted early in 2003 that Bush's goal of Iraq war would fail FOR SURE by observation of similarity of statistical (i.e. population) mindsets between middle east people and Chinese people. The good news is things are changing slowly towards the good direction. The habit and behavior of Chinese people, especially young generation and educated people are more and more closer to that of Japanese, Hongkonger, Taiwan people. But it will take long long time, maybe generations.

amirmc 9y ago
> Unfortunately, researches and studies of personality statistics of vary large group of people(for example, behavior of an ethnic group) are very difficult and most importantly: they are politically incorrect, considered harmful and forbidden, as well as the conclusions will not be accepted by public. Do you mean politically incorrect in China? Otherwise, I'd just call this kind of study Anthropology (of some form).
- mistermann 9y ago
  In my experience, most Westerners (well, moreso under the age of 40) seem to believe there is literally no such thing as culture, almost as if it is a completely imaginary concept.

sporkenfang 9y ago

Possibly, but where I live we get the same sort of tourists from China. I'd love to see some of the more interesting parts of Chinese history in person, but I'm not entirely sure I want to brave a whole lot of people acting like that to get to them.

thejay 9y ago

I wonder who's loss it is that you don't visit due to a potential minor inconvenience.

_pastel 9y ago

I'm curious: have you had those experiences everywhere in Thailand, or only at the most famous tourist sites? I've read this about Chinese tourists for years. But all the Mainlander tourists I've spotted in Taiwan and Hong Kong have been normally behaved, which has always been mildly disappointing. Until I finally visited some of the more touristy Thailand temples and saw the behavior you describe. My theory is that the sort of Chinese tourist who fits this stereotype will almost exclusively follow a guided itinerary with a big tour group.

rubatuga 9y ago

I think we should remember that although this may be the case today, cultures of the younger generation can change quickly. Also, although you haven’t explicitly stated this, it can be extremely easy to dismiss or judge a whole country based on this, so make sure to keep an open mind.

anonicasjuly 9y ago

This is how I feel about Australia. All of the Australians I have seen in SE Asia are sex tourists so I can't help but wonder if it's just the type Australian tourists that visit SE Asia and Australia would be different, but its just not a risk i'm willing to take.

Accacin 9y ago

I don't agree with you. Here in the UK most of the Chinese tourists we get here are perfectly fine and don't display any of the behavior you've spoken about.