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Honestly, who gives a fuck that arms sales are lawful. The issue isn't legal, it's moral. I hate the fact that people in my country are assisting in the killing

Honestly, who gives a fuck that arms sales are lawful. The issue isn't legal, it's moral. I hate the fact that people in my country are assisting in the killing of innocent people in Yemen and Syria. No amount of legal precedence is going to take that hate away.

JumpCrisscross 9y ago
> who [cares if] arms sales are lawful People who care about the rule of law [1]. Once upon a time, we lived in a world where random people decided what is and isn't moral. It wasn't fun. So we decided to codify conventions in laws [2]. If your fellow countrymen disagree that the law should be changed, that's your problem, not the ruling. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_law [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta
- amelius 9y ago
  You are misinterpreting the commenter. They do not advocate to ignore the law. Instead they advocate simply to not sell those weapons, so the law does not apply in the first place.
  - ZenoArrow 9y ago
    Exactly.
- ZenoArrow 9y ago
  Nope. I have no issue with the legal rights for arms companies to exist. My issue is with the moral choices of whom they sell to. Enforcing changes through the law is ineffective in cases like this, the companies can easily find loopholes, such as selling to a middleman who operates outside the legal jurisdiction in which they operate. The only way that's truly effective is to change the culture of those working within the arms companies, and you can do that most easily through hitting them where it hurts, i.e. their profits. There are ways and means of effectively resisting the actions of these companies, and if those that are pleased about this legal ruling believe that it will placate those that oppose them, they're dead wrong.

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Honestly, who gives a fuck that arms sales are lawful. The issue isn't legal, it's moral. I hate the fact that people in my country are assisting in the killing

by ZenoArrow 9y ago

JumpCrisscross 9y ago
> who [cares if] arms sales are lawful People who care about the rule of law [1]. Once upon a time, we lived in a world where random people decided what is and isn't moral. It wasn't fun. So we decided to codify conventions in laws [2]. If your fellow countrymen disagree that the law should be changed, that's your problem, not the ruling. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_law [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta
- amelius 9y ago
  You are misinterpreting the commenter. They do not advocate to ignore the law. Instead they advocate simply to not sell those weapons, so the law does not apply in the first place.
  - ZenoArrow 9y ago
    Exactly.
- ZenoArrow 9y ago
  Nope. I have no issue with the legal rights for arms companies to exist. My issue is with the moral choices of whom they sell to. Enforcing changes through the law is ineffective in cases like this, the companies can easily find loopholes, such as selling to a middleman who operates outside the legal jurisdiction in which they operate. The only way that's truly effective is to change the culture of those working within the arms companies, and you can do that most easily through hitting them where it hurts, i.e. their profits. There are ways and means of effectively resisting the actions of these companies, and if those that are pleased about this legal ruling believe that it will placate those that oppose them, they're dead wrong.