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I don't understand - how could assault or rape be the responsibility of the event organiser? If people are being dicks they should be paying for it, not the eve

I don't understand - how could assault or rape be the responsibility of the event organiser? If people are being dicks they should be paying for it, not the event's insurance.

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shagie 9y ago
From the article: > In late June, Insomniac Holdings LLC and Live Nation Entertainment Inc. were sued for the wrongful death of attendee Tom Nicholas at the Electric Daisy Carnival festival in Las Vegas, alleging the event made it difficult to access water and medical staff. In 2016, the mother of Emily Michelle Tran, who died at the HARD Summer Festival in 2014 after taking MDMA and having a seizure, sued Live Nation for negligence and wrongful death. Insomniac and Live Nation declined to comment on the litigation. The key there was the difficulty accessing staff. For assault and rape, the organizer could be at fault if there was insufficient security staff, or the hired staff ignored an issue allowing for negligence. Furthermore, if the security ignored an individual who was drunk and belligerent leading to an assault or rape, that would also be an issue. With the prevalence of drinking at such events and security missing or overlooking such an event, this is a very real concern for insurers.
otterley 9y ago
There's a large body of law in the U.S. on the responsibilities of "dramshops" (places that sell alcohol) and social hosts. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/alcohol-related-accidents-injuries http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/alcohol-related-accid... is a good place to start your research.
thomasjudge 9y ago
If something bad happens to you at a festival, why would you sue the festival? In the words of Willie Sutton (who was talking about robbing banks) "That's where the money is."
pbhjpbhj 9y ago
I think it's purely an English law thing (?) but have you heard of Vicarious Liability, it's kinda crazy what a company can be liable for.

I don't understand - how could assault or rape be the responsibility of the event organiser? If people are being dicks they should be paying for it, not the event's insurance.

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shagie 9y ago

From the article: > In late June, Insomniac Holdings LLC and Live Nation Entertainment Inc. were sued for the wrongful death of attendee Tom Nicholas at the Electric Daisy Carnival festival in Las Vegas, alleging the event made it difficult to access water and medical staff. In 2016, the mother of Emily Michelle Tran, who died at the HARD Summer Festival in 2014 after taking MDMA and having a seizure, sued Live Nation for negligence and wrongful death. Insomniac and Live Nation declined to comment on the litigation. The key there was the difficulty accessing staff. For assault and rape, the organizer could be at fault if there was insufficient security staff, or the hired staff ignored an issue allowing for negligence. Furthermore, if the security ignored an individual who was drunk and belligerent leading to an assault or rape, that would also be an issue. With the prevalence of drinking at such events and security missing or overlooking such an event, this is a very real concern for insurers.

otterley 9y ago

There's a large body of law in the U.S. on the responsibilities of "dramshops" (places that sell alcohol) and social hosts. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/alcohol-related-accidents-injuries http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/alcohol-related-accid... is a good place to start your research.

thomasjudge 9y ago

If something bad happens to you at a festival, why would you sue the festival? In the words of Willie Sutton (who was talking about robbing banks) "That's where the money is."

pbhjpbhj 9y ago

I think it's purely an English law thing (?) but have you heard of Vicarious Liability, it's kinda crazy what a company can be liable for.