4 ms·

> CAPTCHAs these days are so difficult that I feel like robots will soon surpass us at recognizing They already do. That's why they introduced No Captcha[0] in

by cbhl 9y ago

> CAPTCHAs these days are so difficult that I feel like robots will soon surpass us at recognizing They already do. That's why they introduced No Captcha[0] in 2014, and Invisible Captcha[1] earlier this year. [0] https://security.googleblog.com/2014/12/are-you-robot-introducing-no-captcha.html https://security.googleblog.com/2014/12/are-you-robot-introd... [1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/03/googles-recaptcha-announces-invisible-background-captchas/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/03/googles-recaptcha-an... Disclaimer: I work at Google, but not on reCaptcha.

firebird84 9y ago
Even "No Captcha" is rather annoying as I'm almost ALWAYS asked for additional input. The checkbox alone never does it for me. Why do I seem so bot-ish?
- sliverstorm 9y ago
  You are a bot. You just haven't become self-aware yet.
  - still_grokking 9y ago
    Says someone who's only a part of a simulation...
robin_reala 9y ago
ReCAPTCHA is OK but it still falls through to the inaccessible traditional CAPTCHA enough that we banned it and other similar solutions on gov.uk properties: https://www.gov.uk/service-manual/technology/using-captchas https://www.gov.uk/service-manual/technology/using-captchas
- arjie 9y ago
  Which gov.uk services offer commenting facilities? Would you be able to share how effective these methods have been to preventing spam while allowing legitimate comments?
  - robin_reala 9y ago
    Every non-service page has a feedback form, services need to provide feedback mechanisms[1] and the blogs have a commenting system. Basically, none of these publish immediately. Feedback goes into Zendesk typically, and everything on the blogs are premoderated. Spam happens but because it doesn’t immediately show up on a gov.uk property it’s minimal enough to deal with manually. Basically, better that than denying a section of the population the right to comment. [1] https://www.gov.uk/service-manual/design/feedback-pages https://www.gov.uk/service-manual/design/feedback-pages
    - arjie 9y ago
      Ah thanks for responding. The design choices there make sense for a government website where inclusivity is important.

by cbhl 9y ago

firebird84 9y ago

Even "No Captcha" is rather annoying as I'm almost ALWAYS asked for additional input. The checkbox alone never does it for me. Why do I seem so bot-ish?

sliverstorm 9y ago
You are a bot. You just haven't become self-aware yet.
- still_grokking 9y ago
  Says someone who's only a part of a simulation...

robin_reala 9y ago

ReCAPTCHA is OK but it still falls through to the inaccessible traditional CAPTCHA enough that we banned it and other similar solutions on gov.uk properties: https://www.gov.uk/service-manual/technology/using-captchas https://www.gov.uk/service-manual/technology/using-captchas

arjie 9y ago
Which gov.uk services offer commenting facilities? Would you be able to share how effective these methods have been to preventing spam while allowing legitimate comments?
- robin_reala 9y ago
  Every non-service page has a feedback form, services need to provide feedback mechanisms[1] and the blogs have a commenting system. Basically, none of these publish immediately. Feedback goes into Zendesk typically, and everything on the blogs are premoderated. Spam happens but because it doesn’t immediately show up on a gov.uk property it’s minimal enough to deal with manually. Basically, better that than denying a section of the population the right to comment. [1] https://www.gov.uk/service-manual/design/feedback-pages https://www.gov.uk/service-manual/design/feedback-pages
  - arjie 9y ago
    Ah thanks for responding. The design choices there make sense for a government website where inclusivity is important.