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> It's important to note that because PassMark's market share data is based on benchmark submissions it counts actual systems in use, rather than systems sold.

> It's important to note that because PassMark's market share data is based on benchmark submissions it counts actual systems in use, rather than systems sold. So AMD's market share would be overstated? I don't think a lot of machines get PassMark run on them, most would be enthusiasts or review sites benchmarking them. Ryzen has recently gotten a lot of attention. Compare that to the relative snoozefest that is/was Kaby Lake. Dell, HP etc. machines sold for home/business use would outnumber enthusiast builds ... ten-to-one? Steam's Hardware Survey [1] would be one to keep an eye on, although it hasn't been updated for June and would probably favour Intel because of Steam's audience: gaming benchmarks show Ryzen is competitive but in terms of highest performance for gaming Intel has the upper hand. [1] http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

sandworm101 9y ago
Things may change at steam. ATM many/most top games are not optimized for multiple cores, particularly the indi titles. That could change. A few updates to unity and other tools could see Ryzen become a gaming powerhouse. I'll be in the market for a new gaming PC in a couple months. I want to go with AMD-Ryzen. I like the concept.
- mehwoot 9y ago
  ATM many/most top games are not optimized for multiple cores That's not a simple thing to fix. Even in platforms like unity.
- desdiv 9y ago
  High-end Intel chips are 8 logical cores; high-end Ryzen chips are 16 to 32 logical cores. When games becomes optimized for multiple cores, both sides win. It's only when games are optimized for more than 8 logical cores that AMD will start having an advantage, and AFAIK no game engine has ever been optimized towards such a niche market (between 8 and 32 logical cores). There will always be mid-tier desktop systems and laptops with less than 8 logical cores that could be your potential customers.
  - sliken 9y ago
    Not sure what universe you live in. But for 99% of the world the "high end" is an i7-7700k with 4 cores/8 threads. Systems with nice parts designed for gaming are in the $1000-$2000 range ($350 for cpu, $150 for motherboard, $100-$200 for ram, $350-$650 for GPU, and a few $100 for the rest (SSD, case, fans, keyboard/mouse, etc) VERY few people spend more. AMD competes in this space with basically double the cores for the same money. Like say the R7-1700X, same price as the i7-7700k While 8 core intel's exist they are insanely expensive and don't typically do even 1% better at gaming. The 16-32 core Ryzen chips don't even exist yet.
    - desdiv 9y ago
      i7-7700k is 8 logical cores. Ryzen 7 is 16 logical cores. I used the phrase "logical core" in my comment 5 times because it is unambiguous whether as the unqualified word "core" isn't (it could be referring to physical cores or logical cores).
- geezerjay 9y ago
  > ATM many/most top games are not optimized for multiple cores That tends to mean a complete redesign, as adding parallelism means following different programming models and rewriting whole software packages to accommodate them.

sandworm101 9y ago

Things may change at steam. ATM many/most top games are not optimized for multiple cores, particularly the indi titles. That could change. A few updates to unity and other tools could see Ryzen become a gaming powerhouse. I'll be in the market for a new gaming PC in a couple months. I want to go with AMD-Ryzen. I like the concept.

mehwoot 9y ago
ATM many/most top games are not optimized for multiple cores That's not a simple thing to fix. Even in platforms like unity.
desdiv 9y ago
High-end Intel chips are 8 logical cores; high-end Ryzen chips are 16 to 32 logical cores. When games becomes optimized for multiple cores, both sides win. It's only when games are optimized for more than 8 logical cores that AMD will start having an advantage, and AFAIK no game engine has ever been optimized towards such a niche market (between 8 and 32 logical cores). There will always be mid-tier desktop systems and laptops with less than 8 logical cores that could be your potential customers.
- sliken 9y ago
  Not sure what universe you live in. But for 99% of the world the "high end" is an i7-7700k with 4 cores/8 threads. Systems with nice parts designed for gaming are in the $1000-$2000 range ($350 for cpu, $150 for motherboard, $100-$200 for ram, $350-$650 for GPU, and a few $100 for the rest (SSD, case, fans, keyboard/mouse, etc) VERY few people spend more. AMD competes in this space with basically double the cores for the same money. Like say the R7-1700X, same price as the i7-7700k While 8 core intel's exist they are insanely expensive and don't typically do even 1% better at gaming. The 16-32 core Ryzen chips don't even exist yet.
  - desdiv 9y ago
    i7-7700k is 8 logical cores. Ryzen 7 is 16 logical cores. I used the phrase "logical core" in my comment 5 times because it is unambiguous whether as the unqualified word "core" isn't (it could be referring to physical cores or logical cores).
geezerjay 9y ago
> ATM many/most top games are not optimized for multiple cores That tends to mean a complete redesign, as adding parallelism means following different programming models and rewriting whole software packages to accommodate them.