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Either the user controls the program or the program controls the user. It's time already for a truly FOSS phone (and no, android doesn't cut it... lineage/repli

Either the user controls the program or the program controls the user. It's time already for a truly FOSS phone (and no, android doesn't cut it... lineage/replicant barely do). I shouldn't have to use some strange third party questionable methods to get root on my fucking device.

simonh 9y ago
>Either the user controls the program or the program controls the user. It's time already for a truly FOSS phone And McDonald's is an instrument of oppression because you can't order pancakes after 10:30am. Either the customer controls the restaurant or the restaurant controls the customer! If you want root on a device, buy a device that allows root. Apple doesn't have a monopoly on smartphones. Meanwhile people who want a reliable device with billions of dollars worth of investment in industry leading security and standout features like first class accessibility can have them. And yes, it turns out there's a trade off between platform security and user system access. We're all better off because there are a range of platforms available to us that provide different choices between those trade offs. Nobody is stopping the FOSS community break by my out first class phones with industry leading features. The fact that it hasn't isn't a failing of Apple and smashing Apple wouldn't make it happen anyway.
- emsy 9y ago
  >And yes, it turns out there's a trade off between platform security and user system access. I'm an iPhone user for security reasons but this arument rubs me the wrong way. You can allow users system access at their own risk, if you design it correctly. The problem with Android is that "Install from unknown sources" is merely a checkbox away and opens the gateways to hell.
  - solarkraft 9y ago
    But not really, though. Yeah, Android apps have a lot of power and how they do is poorly documented (imo), but they still can't break out of their sandbox. Unknown sources is not a replacement for root.
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simonh 9y ago

>Either the user controls the program or the program controls the user. It's time already for a truly FOSS phone And McDonald's is an instrument of oppression because you can't order pancakes after 10:30am. Either the customer controls the restaurant or the restaurant controls the customer! If you want root on a device, buy a device that allows root. Apple doesn't have a monopoly on smartphones. Meanwhile people who want a reliable device with billions of dollars worth of investment in industry leading security and standout features like first class accessibility can have them. And yes, it turns out there's a trade off between platform security and user system access. We're all better off because there are a range of platforms available to us that provide different choices between those trade offs. Nobody is stopping the FOSS community break by my out first class phones with industry leading features. The fact that it hasn't isn't a failing of Apple and smashing Apple wouldn't make it happen anyway.

emsy 9y ago
>And yes, it turns out there's a trade off between platform security and user system access. I'm an iPhone user for security reasons but this arument rubs me the wrong way. You can allow users system access at their own risk, if you design it correctly. The problem with Android is that "Install from unknown sources" is merely a checkbox away and opens the gateways to hell.
- solarkraft 9y ago
  But not really, though. Yeah, Android apps have a lot of power and how they do is poorly documented (imo), but they still can't break out of their sandbox. Unknown sources is not a replacement for root.
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