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> But why is it shoved into everybody, and impossible to turn off? I suspect business reasons? Or lack of demand? Maybe some of the same reasons it's not open
by bryanbuckley 9y ago
> But why is it shoved into everybody, and impossible to turn off?
I suspect business reasons? Or lack of demand? Maybe some of the same reasons it's not open source even though there is no reason it shouldn't be? Why can't you turn this (trusted computing) stuff off on iPhones etc?
- daxorid 9y ago> I suspect business reasons? All current-run Intel processors include ECC support on-die in the memory controller. They go out of their way to disable it on consumer processors so they can extract more money from Xeon, even though it's right there in your Core i5's silicon, going unused. Business history suggests that if they could boost profits by selling ME only to enterprise customers at a premium, they would do it in a heartbeat. There's something . . . else . . . going on, here.
- sliken 9y agoIt's mind bogglingly expensive to make a die, so of course the i5/i7 and e3 use the same die. I've not noticed any xeon premium though, the Xeon E3-1230 for instance seems to be on the same price/perf curve as the i7-7700 and i7-7700k. Xeon E5's are much more expensive, but that's because it has more cores, ecc, dual socket capable etc. The E3 is basically the same chip as the i7 with different features enaled (overclocking instead of ecc).
- takeda 9y agoHe is saying they are blocking ECC even though is available, why ME is not similarly blocked and available only on premium CPUs, why we can't even disable it?