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I'm afraid it is common. Java isn't perfect and when people also treat their IDE as a glorified text editor I think it is no wonder they dislike it. (If you g
by reitanqild 9y ago
I'm afraid it is common.
Java isn't perfect and when people also treat their IDE as a glorified text editor I think it is no wonder they dislike it.
(If you go with Java, embrace it. This is probably the thing I disliked most about the way programming was taught in school: they used Java, but without the tooling that makes it awesome. Supposedly so we should learn it well.
If anyone here teaches Java: by all mean have your students use javac in the first assignmemt but teach them maven the very next thing you do. Learn them to use an IDE -
it's not harmful as long as you don't accept autogenerated code.)
- poikniok 9y agoWhat is wrong with autogenerated code?
- reitanqild 9y agoNothing. There is nothing wrong with code generation in a production setting with "grown up" engineers who uses version control and knows the pitfalls. The part in parenthesis is just a rant about education and how teachers use notepad and javac to teach Java. So my point is the only thing students shouldn't use in an IDE is code generation.
- copperx 9y agoBut going from javac to Maven in CS1 would be insanely difficult; there are many prerequisites before one can use Maven. It may only work in top-tier schools.
- reitanqild 9y agoI'd say quite the contrary: If I had been given a zip with a basic pom file and the correct main and test directories I think I'd had a much simpler start.