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Mozilla ships Firefox update in response to FarmVille users

53 points by shrikant 16y ago

ars 16y ago
Well, it's not really FarmVille. Basically they guessed on a reasonably timeout before, and now they have more data. I bet any game would cause them to need a longer timeout.
- teej 16y ago
  Zynga was in direct contact with Mozilla during this fix. It was a lot more about FarmVille than this comment will lead you to believe.
  - Sujan 16y ago
    Yeah but I can tell you other flash games makers had the exact same problem and did their own communication. BTW: Thanks Zynga ;)
- zyb09 16y ago
  Funny how Google was preaching for years how important a fast, and speedy website for success is, and now the largest online multi-player game is triggering 30sec. timeouts. -.-
  - ars 16y ago
    Did you actually read the bug report? Because that's not exactly what's happening.
mkramlich 16y ago
never underestimate the power of the middle-aged mom cyber-farmer demographic
- coryl 16y ago
  they know how to report bugs to browser developers?
  - adriand 16y ago
    They know what they want and gosh darnit, if it means they have to harass a bunch of nerds to get it, well, look out for those bug reports!
Qz 16y ago
This 'crash protection' was closing every flash thing I tried to run, from Hulu to the simplest sample apps in the Adobe LiveDocs. Worst 'fix/feature' ever. I've almost never had problems with Flash before this...
- paul9290 16y ago
  I concur though for me after updating to 3.6.4 and then updating my flash plugin on my mac mini Firefox wont even open. It crashes each time i try to open it. Unfortunately after six years Ive moved to chrome. I need a browser that works and is stable. Chrome doesnt crash and i can have 3 tabs open running flash content.
  - Qz 16y ago
    I think that's more of a mac issue. I've been on windows/Firefox since 2003 and Flash has never been an issue for me. I can count on one hand the number of times it has crashed my browser in all of that time, which is to far less times than windows itself has crashed.
  - DEinspanjer 16y ago
    So let me get this straight, you updated to 3.6.4 on Mac, had lots of problems with Flash and then decided at that time to switch to Chrome? Hope that works well for you. I should mention though that the new out of process plug-in feature isn't in Firefox for Mac. The problem discussed here wouldn't have affected you. Any chance you were just wanting to advertise Chrome and thought this would be a good vehicle? If you have been having trouble with Flash in Firefox on Mac for a while and upgrading to 3.6.4 didn't help, have you tried upgrading Flash itself? Do the Flash tabs inside Chrome sometimes crash or is Flash behaving differently there than in Firefox?
    - paul9290 16y ago
      So far I have had no issues with Chrome crashing while running two to three tabs of content each playing flash content. As for advertising Chrome ... that wasnt my aim, rather to let Mozilla people of my issue. Could be a wider spread issue then myself. Ive used Mozilla as my main browser since 2003, unfortunately after the update Im not able to use it at all :(
shdon 16y ago
This is interesting... seeing that the change list does indeed only show that bug 574905. What I'd find more interesting though, would be to find out why they decided to skip Fx 3.6.5. There has been quite a number of bugs that was marked fixed with that code. I wonder if those are included in 3.6.6: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20status1.9.2%3A.5-fixed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20s...
- shdon 16y ago
  Hm. It looks like I get to answer the second part of my own question. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=538909 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=538909 is marked as .5-fixed, but the behaviour hasn't changed compared to 3.6.4
- DEinspanjer 16y ago
  3.6.5pre has been in dev and testing and not all of the changes put in it were validated so it isn't ready to ship yet. Rather than pushing out code that wasn't fully tested, or releasing a version called 3.6.5 that included different code from 3.6.5pre, they branched around it and released 3.6.6 with just the one change needed. I imagine they'll retire 3.6.5pre and move everything over to 3.6.7pre where they will continue working on the next release.
- mbrubeck 16y ago
  Firefox point releases are versioned to match Gecko platform releases: Gecko 1.9.2.4 -> Firefox 3.6.4 Gecko 1.9.2.6 -> Firefox 3.6.6 The Gecko 1.9.2.5 branch was created for a Mobile Firefox security release (Fennec 1.0.1). This did not affect Firefox 3.6, so there was no Firefox 3.6.5 release: http://christian.legnitto.com/blog/2010/06/09/heads-up-the-next-firefox-platform-version-is-1-9-2-6-instead-of-1-9-2-5/ http://christian.legnitto.com/blog/2010/06/09/heads-up-the-n... [Note: I am a member of the Mozilla Mobile team.]
  - DEinspanjer 16y ago
    Interesting. guess I should keep my half baked theories to myself. :) That said.. I wonder what in the world the browsers reporting themselves as 3.6.5pre actually are...
0nly1ife 16y ago
FarmVille players are real, ordinary, normal people. If you want to develop software that impacts real people, target the FarmVille audience and ignore readers of Hacker News, TechCrunch, etc.

53 points by shrikant 16y ago

ars 16y ago

Well, it's not really FarmVille. Basically they guessed on a reasonably timeout before, and now they have more data. I bet any game would cause them to need a longer timeout.

teej 16y ago
Zynga was in direct contact with Mozilla during this fix. It was a lot more about FarmVille than this comment will lead you to believe.
- Sujan 16y ago
  Yeah but I can tell you other flash games makers had the exact same problem and did their own communication. BTW: Thanks Zynga ;)
zyb09 16y ago
Funny how Google was preaching for years how important a fast, and speedy website for success is, and now the largest online multi-player game is triggering 30sec. timeouts. -.-
- ars 16y ago
  Did you actually read the bug report? Because that's not exactly what's happening.

mkramlich 16y ago

never underestimate the power of the middle-aged mom cyber-farmer demographic

coryl 16y ago
they know how to report bugs to browser developers?
- adriand 16y ago
  They know what they want and gosh darnit, if it means they have to harass a bunch of nerds to get it, well, look out for those bug reports!

Qz 16y ago

This 'crash protection' was closing every flash thing I tried to run, from Hulu to the simplest sample apps in the Adobe LiveDocs. Worst 'fix/feature' ever. I've almost never had problems with Flash before this...

paul9290 16y ago
I concur though for me after updating to 3.6.4 and then updating my flash plugin on my mac mini Firefox wont even open. It crashes each time i try to open it. Unfortunately after six years Ive moved to chrome. I need a browser that works and is stable. Chrome doesnt crash and i can have 3 tabs open running flash content.
- Qz 16y ago
  I think that's more of a mac issue. I've been on windows/Firefox since 2003 and Flash has never been an issue for me. I can count on one hand the number of times it has crashed my browser in all of that time, which is to far less times than windows itself has crashed.
- DEinspanjer 16y ago
  So let me get this straight, you updated to 3.6.4 on Mac, had lots of problems with Flash and then decided at that time to switch to Chrome? Hope that works well for you. I should mention though that the new out of process plug-in feature isn't in Firefox for Mac. The problem discussed here wouldn't have affected you. Any chance you were just wanting to advertise Chrome and thought this would be a good vehicle? If you have been having trouble with Flash in Firefox on Mac for a while and upgrading to 3.6.4 didn't help, have you tried upgrading Flash itself? Do the Flash tabs inside Chrome sometimes crash or is Flash behaving differently there than in Firefox?
  - paul9290 16y ago
    So far I have had no issues with Chrome crashing while running two to three tabs of content each playing flash content. As for advertising Chrome ... that wasnt my aim, rather to let Mozilla people of my issue. Could be a wider spread issue then myself. Ive used Mozilla as my main browser since 2003, unfortunately after the update Im not able to use it at all :(

shdon 16y ago

This is interesting... seeing that the change list does indeed only show that bug 574905. What I'd find more interesting though, would be to find out why they decided to skip Fx 3.6.5. There has been quite a number of bugs that was marked fixed with that code. I wonder if those are included in 3.6.6: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20status1.9.2%3A.5-fixed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20s...

shdon 16y ago
Hm. It looks like I get to answer the second part of my own question. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=538909 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=538909 is marked as .5-fixed, but the behaviour hasn't changed compared to 3.6.4
DEinspanjer 16y ago
3.6.5pre has been in dev and testing and not all of the changes put in it were validated so it isn't ready to ship yet. Rather than pushing out code that wasn't fully tested, or releasing a version called 3.6.5 that included different code from 3.6.5pre, they branched around it and released 3.6.6 with just the one change needed. I imagine they'll retire 3.6.5pre and move everything over to 3.6.7pre where they will continue working on the next release.
mbrubeck 16y ago
Firefox point releases are versioned to match Gecko platform releases: Gecko 1.9.2.4 -> Firefox 3.6.4 Gecko 1.9.2.6 -> Firefox 3.6.6 The Gecko 1.9.2.5 branch was created for a Mobile Firefox security release (Fennec 1.0.1). This did not affect Firefox 3.6, so there was no Firefox 3.6.5 release: http://christian.legnitto.com/blog/2010/06/09/heads-up-the-next-firefox-platform-version-is-1-9-2-6-instead-of-1-9-2-5/ http://christian.legnitto.com/blog/2010/06/09/heads-up-the-n... [Note: I am a member of the Mozilla Mobile team.]
- DEinspanjer 16y ago
  Interesting. guess I should keep my half baked theories to myself. :) That said.. I wonder what in the world the browsers reporting themselves as 3.6.5pre actually are...

0nly1ife 16y ago

FarmVille players are real, ordinary, normal people. If you want to develop software that impacts real people, target the FarmVille audience and ignore readers of Hacker News, TechCrunch, etc.