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Yes that is pretty much the entire idea. If you don't let them track you, they don't have a reasonable assurance that you're a real legit non-malicious human be

Yes that is pretty much the entire idea. If you don't let them track you, they don't have a reasonable assurance that you're a real legit non-malicious human being. So you get to fill out the actual captcha. Pretty sweet deal, yeah? 99% of the population gets an easy checkbox, and all the people who care just need to fill out some questions to prove they're not a bot. It's not like you're blocked from using the form.

devoply 9y ago
99% of the population. Last time checked significant portion of the population uses various tools including ad-blockers, and other privacy tools to decrease their online foot print. So that point is wholly incorrect. You mean significant portion of the population who does not mind being tracked constantly by Google. Most likely the most unsavy masses. Not anyone that cares about their privacy.
- roblabla 9y ago
  I use an adblocker and various other privacy tool (uMatrix user here). I still get one-click checkbox most of the time. I'm logged into my google account.
- Aaargh20318 9y ago
  > Last time checked significant portion of the population uses various tools including ad-blockers, and other privacy tools to decrease their online foot print. In what alternate reality ?
  - Dylan16807 9y ago
    "PageFair 2017 ad blocking report: Usage up 30%" Whether or not that number is correct, it's definitely a significant portion of the population doing it.
    - datguacdoh 9y ago
      30% from what starting base? If the number was relatively small to begin with, 30% growth doesn't really mean much.
      - Dylan16807 9y ago
        Oh, I'm sorry, I misread that title as "up to", because I viewed it right after a slightly older headline saying "IAB Study Says 26% of Desktop Users Turn On Ad Blockers". So go with 26% as a possibly-high number. I very much doubt the number is under 10%. It's a lot of people.
joveian 9y ago
It isn't always a "just fill out some questions" issue; some of the captas they show are essentially impossible for humans. The one Google service I can't avoid (well, maps also but I can't reember a problem there) is Google Scholar and I occasionally get the almost impossible captchas there (I think I got one out of at least six I tried on different occasions). Logging in avoids the issue (and tends to fix it for a while without logging in... I think an IP address range thing in my case). The worst part is when you need to prove to Google who you are when already logged in to a (non-Google) online store that you have purchased from previously. That is just rediculous and seems to be getting more common. At least those are not impossible, but still. I do not know if Google has anything to do with promoting that use but if they do they should be held responsible for that (as well as the businesses that use such things).
- tokenizerrr 9y ago
  Obviously it's up to the sites to decide when to present a captcha.
  - joveian 9y ago
    In some sense, sure, thus my use of the word promote. Depending on what (if anything) Google does to promote that it might be antitrust related.
    - tokenizerrr 9y ago
      Nothing. It's trivial to sign up and implement recaptcha, I've done it several times. You just get some code that shows a captcha.

devoply 9y ago

99% of the population. Last time checked significant portion of the population uses various tools including ad-blockers, and other privacy tools to decrease their online foot print. So that point is wholly incorrect. You mean significant portion of the population who does not mind being tracked constantly by Google. Most likely the most unsavy masses. Not anyone that cares about their privacy.

roblabla 9y ago
I use an adblocker and various other privacy tool (uMatrix user here). I still get one-click checkbox most of the time. I'm logged into my google account.
Aaargh20318 9y ago
> Last time checked significant portion of the population uses various tools including ad-blockers, and other privacy tools to decrease their online foot print. In what alternate reality ?
- Dylan16807 9y ago
  "PageFair 2017 ad blocking report: Usage up 30%" Whether or not that number is correct, it's definitely a significant portion of the population doing it.
  - datguacdoh 9y ago
    30% from what starting base? If the number was relatively small to begin with, 30% growth doesn't really mean much.
    - Dylan16807 9y ago
      Oh, I'm sorry, I misread that title as "up to", because I viewed it right after a slightly older headline saying "IAB Study Says 26% of Desktop Users Turn On Ad Blockers". So go with 26% as a possibly-high number. I very much doubt the number is under 10%. It's a lot of people.

joveian 9y ago

It isn't always a "just fill out some questions" issue; some of the captas they show are essentially impossible for humans. The one Google service I can't avoid (well, maps also but I can't reember a problem there) is Google Scholar and I occasionally get the almost impossible captchas there (I think I got one out of at least six I tried on different occasions). Logging in avoids the issue (and tends to fix it for a while without logging in... I think an IP address range thing in my case). The worst part is when you need to prove to Google who you are when already logged in to a (non-Google) online store that you have purchased from previously. That is just rediculous and seems to be getting more common. At least those are not impossible, but still. I do not know if Google has anything to do with promoting that use but if they do they should be held responsible for that (as well as the businesses that use such things).

tokenizerrr 9y ago
Obviously it's up to the sites to decide when to present a captcha.
- joveian 9y ago
  In some sense, sure, thus my use of the word promote. Depending on what (if anything) Google does to promote that it might be antitrust related.
  - tokenizerrr 9y ago
    Nothing. It's trivial to sign up and implement recaptcha, I've done it several times. You just get some code that shows a captcha.