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Perhaps questions like "This statement is false", "New Mission: decline this mission", base64 encoded copies of René Magritte's 'this is not a pipe', "God is al
by KekDemaga 9y ago
Perhaps questions like "This statement is false", "New Mission: decline this mission", base64 encoded copies of René Magritte's 'this is not a pipe', "God is all powerful, can He make a rock so big that He Himself can't lift it?", "calculate the 2nd prime number", etc to prevent automated AI attacks.
- pavel_lishin 9y ago> "calculate the 2nd prime number" I don't recognize this reference.
- Dylan16807 9y ago> "New Mission: decline this mission" Is that a paradox? If you accept it or have it forced on you then depending on how you interpret the rules you either succeed or fail straightforwardly. If you don't accept it or have it forced on you then nothing happens. There's no loop of logic.
- IncRnd 9y agoYou seem like the sort of person who says, "I always lie."
- Dylan16807 9y agoI like it. Because that's also not a paradox, it's just a lie. It can be deceptively difficult to get the wording correct on a paradox.
- IncRnd 9y agoIn the sense that a paradox is self-contradicting, what I wrote is definitely a paradox. Trust me. I always tell the truth, so to speak.
- Dylan16807 9y ago"It's noon in Texas, and it's midnight in Texas." is also self-contradicting. That's not enough for a paradox.
- bananicorn 9y agoMaybe: "This statement is a lie"?
- IncRnd 9y agoExactly. As long as "maybe" isn't part of the statement!
- aangjie 9y agoYeah.. Everybody always lies.. The only way to get or transfer the truth is to hook up(or read) brains (ideally neuron by neuron, and change the receiver's brains to reflect the same. :-P
- JadeNB 9y ago> > "New Mission: decline this mission" > Is that a paradox? If you accept it or have it forced on you then depending on how you interpret the rules you either succeed or fail straightforwardly. If you don't accept it or have it forced on you then nothing happens. There's no loop of logic. Good point! "New mission: fail at this mission" addresses the first point but not, I think, the second. It reminds me of Carlin's "If you buy 'The worst of Jefferson Airplane', and you like it, should you ask for your money back?", or the even-more-elemental "If you try to fail, and succeed, what happened?"
- Retra 9y agoWhat happened is that the world is flat state, and you are free to displace models in violation of any perceived hierarchy because any such hierarchy is entirely artificial. It's the same reason recursive function calls don't kill your computer in a puff of contradiction.
- taneq 9y agoDrawing something silly on the map does not affect the territory.
- PhasmaFelis 9y agoIf you accept the mission, you must decline the mission. If you decline the mission, you have successfully completed the mission. Either way, your final status is contradictory.
- frankquestions 9y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch-22_(logic) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch-22_(logic) Obligatory
- Dylan16807 9y agoIf you decline it upfront, then you don't successfully complete it. You blocked it from ever becoming an active mission. If you can't decline upfront, then we ask if you can 'decline' later despite already being in the mission. If yes you succeed. If no you fail. It only seems paradoxical when you don't quite think the rules through.
- sp332 9y ago"This is not a pipe" isn't a paradox. It's a painting of a pipe. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images#Description https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images#Desc... The famous pipe. How people reproached me for it! And yet, could you stuff my pipe? No, it's just a representation, is it not? So if I had written on my picture 'This is a pipe', I'd have been lying!
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- c3d 9y ago> God is all powerful, can He make a rock so big that He Himself can't lift it? Yes, the human heart for example