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You mean the company that has you dragging disks into the trash for about three decades now?

by quink 9y ago

evv 9y ago
Speaking of hidden features.. you can just use Cmd-e to eject a disk in finder.
- fredoliveira 9y ago
  That's a keyboard shortcut, though. No way that is a hidden feature.
- Doctor_Fegg 9y ago
  Ah, youngsters. It used to be the case that Cmd-E ejected, but you rarely wanted just to eject (i.e. just remove the disk from the Mac), usually you wanted to Put Away, and that was Cmd-Y. I miss System 7.
  - rhencke 9y ago
    Nostalgia's a funny thing though. Remember the 'bomb' dialog box with the reset button that didn't always work? Cooperative multitasking allowing apps to lock the computer? ...I miss it, too.
    - Doctor_Fegg 9y ago
      Very much. Having Tetris and MacWrite Pro open simultaneously would cause a bomb, every time. It genuinely did wonders for my productivity. I remember System 7.1 most for its purity of interface. Everything from 7.5 onwards seemed to be bolting on more bells and whistles in a faintly uncoordinated fashion, and OS X has continued that. 7.0/7.1 were simple, efficient and fast. Much of the featuritis in the last 25 years has been good, of course, but I would still kill to have the old Spatial Finder back.
      - rhencke 9y ago
        If you hide the toolbar in the OS X finder, you can get Spatial Finder back (!). When the toolbar is hidden, double-clicking folders springs them open to new windows, and folder windows remember their position after closing them. If you turn on the Status Bar, when the toolbar is hidden, it hops up to the top of the window. Just like the old days. sniff
        copperx 9y ago
        So, you're saying that some people navigate deep folder hierarchies by creating a window for every level? That's just so ... messy.
        rhencke 9y ago
        Not as messy as you might think! Holding down 'alt' while navigating causes the previous window to close as you go along. It makes keeping the windows that you'd like to go back to very easy, instead of having to just hit 'back' or 'up' a lot to get back to where you wanted to go.
        Doctor_Fegg 9y ago
        Yep, I hide the toolbar all the time. But OS X has a habit of bringing it back randomly, often when you open a folder you've not visited before, or when you insert a removable volume. I wish there were a defaults switch I could use to kill it forever.
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seanwilson 9y ago
I've always found installing apps on desktop completely unintuitive as well. You double-click a downloaded package, see a window containing the app icon (...why?), drag and drop the icon into your app folder usually with no feedback after then you have to manually launch the app e.g. using cmd+space. Why not just have a "do you want to install this app?" dialog when you click on the app file the app launches after?
- sanbor 9y ago
  You can just open the app without installing it.
  - seanwilson 9y ago
    It's just not intuitive though is the point. You've already double clicked the app icon, now a window appears with the same icon that you have to double click again to launch it? I moved from Windows to Mac after a long time hearing about how great Apple usability was and I could never understand the logic behind the app install workflow.
    - thirdsun 9y ago
      So, I guess you also hate zip files too? You didn't double click the app icon - you double clicked the container that contains the app you are about to open or move/install to your apps folder. I think the drag and drop approach to installing apps is as easy as it gets.
      - wor3q 9y ago
        And this awkwardness is why windows apps have installers instead of being distributed in zip files. Double click -> click install, way easier than dragging anything anywhere
        thirdsun 9y ago
        Frankly, I prefer the ability to install and, almost more importantly, uninstall apps via drag and drop. I understand, it depends on the software, but installers that have the potential to install all kinds of services and files in other places just feel less...clean. It often feels like an unnecessary deep intervention.

You mean the company that has you dragging disks into the trash for about three decades now?

by quink 9y ago

You mean the company that has you dragging disks into the trash for about three decades now?

evv 9y ago

Speaking of hidden features.. you can just use Cmd-e to eject a disk in finder.

fredoliveira 9y ago
That's a keyboard shortcut, though. No way that is a hidden feature.
Doctor_Fegg 9y ago
Ah, youngsters. It used to be the case that Cmd-E ejected, but you rarely wanted just to eject (i.e. just remove the disk from the Mac), usually you wanted to Put Away, and that was Cmd-Y. I miss System 7.
- rhencke 9y ago
  Nostalgia's a funny thing though. Remember the 'bomb' dialog box with the reset button that didn't always work? Cooperative multitasking allowing apps to lock the computer? ...I miss it, too.
  - Doctor_Fegg 9y ago
    Very much. Having Tetris and MacWrite Pro open simultaneously would cause a bomb, every time. It genuinely did wonders for my productivity. I remember System 7.1 most for its purity of interface. Everything from 7.5 onwards seemed to be bolting on more bells and whistles in a faintly uncoordinated fashion, and OS X has continued that. 7.0/7.1 were simple, efficient and fast. Much of the featuritis in the last 25 years has been good, of course, but I would still kill to have the old Spatial Finder back.
    - rhencke 9y ago
      If you hide the toolbar in the OS X finder, you can get Spatial Finder back (!). When the toolbar is hidden, double-clicking folders springs them open to new windows, and folder windows remember their position after closing them. If you turn on the Status Bar, when the toolbar is hidden, it hops up to the top of the window. Just like the old days. sniff
      - copperx 9y ago
        So, you're saying that some people navigate deep folder hierarchies by creating a window for every level? That's just so ... messy.
        rhencke 9y ago
        Not as messy as you might think! Holding down 'alt' while navigating causes the previous window to close as you go along. It makes keeping the windows that you'd like to go back to very easy, instead of having to just hit 'back' or 'up' a lot to get back to where you wanted to go.
      - Doctor_Fegg 9y ago
        Yep, I hide the toolbar all the time. But OS X has a habit of bringing it back randomly, often when you open a folder you've not visited before, or when you insert a removable volume. I wish there were a defaults switch I could use to kill it forever.

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seanwilson 9y ago

I've always found installing apps on desktop completely unintuitive as well. You double-click a downloaded package, see a window containing the app icon (...why?), drag and drop the icon into your app folder usually with no feedback after then you have to manually launch the app e.g. using cmd+space. Why not just have a "do you want to install this app?" dialog when you click on the app file the app launches after?

sanbor 9y ago
You can just open the app without installing it.
- seanwilson 9y ago
  It's just not intuitive though is the point. You've already double clicked the app icon, now a window appears with the same icon that you have to double click again to launch it? I moved from Windows to Mac after a long time hearing about how great Apple usability was and I could never understand the logic behind the app install workflow.
  - thirdsun 9y ago
    So, I guess you also hate zip files too? You didn't double click the app icon - you double clicked the container that contains the app you are about to open or move/install to your apps folder. I think the drag and drop approach to installing apps is as easy as it gets.
    - wor3q 9y ago
      And this awkwardness is why windows apps have installers instead of being distributed in zip files. Double click -> click install, way easier than dragging anything anywhere
      - thirdsun 9y ago
        Frankly, I prefer the ability to install and, almost more importantly, uninstall apps via drag and drop. I understand, it depends on the software, but installers that have the potential to install all kinds of services and files in other places just feel less...clean. It often feels like an unnecessary deep intervention.