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Scientific research piracy site hit with $15M fine
- aurizon 9y agoManagement of the site says:- Oh my shoes and socks, whatever am I going to do - I will do nothing... my comment:- Eat shit and die Elsevier and all your running dogs of copyright imperialism
- closed 9y agoI ran into Elsevier at a job fair, and had to tell them that my academic advisor would probably see it as me working on the death star..
- closed 9y agoA lot of academics I know point people to sci-hub! For example, the American Psychological Association has been issuing take-down requests to academics who distribute final article PDFs on their sites. As a result, there's been a fair amount of activity on twitter telling people that they can get them there.
- rsfern 9y agoWhy not just post the finalized version of the manuscript instead of the journal's typeset version? It's the same content, and most journals seem to be ok with this practice -- are preprint versions against APA's copyright policy in some way?
- closed 9y agoPreprints are fine to post, and that's definitely what some people are pushing for. There's a good article on how some psychologists have responded here: http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/49670/title/Authors-Peeved-by-APA-s-Article-Takedown-Pilot/ http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/49670/....
- dredmorbius 9y agoWhat the academic publishing industry calls "theft", the world calls "research". https://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/4p2rwk/what_the_academic_publishing_industry_calls_theft/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/4p2rwk/what_th... Thank you, Alexandra, for your library.
- hatmatrix 9y agoThe second great library of Alexandr(i)a.
- dredmorbius 9y agoHer name is most apt. I'm hoping it doesn't burn.
- Dolores12 9y agoAnother reminder to donate. Thanks, Alexandra!
- biehl 9y agoReminds me of: Sci-Hub As Necessary, Effective Civil Disobedience http://bjoern.brembs.net/2016/02/sci-hub-as-necessary-effective-civil-disobedience/ http://bjoern.brembs.net/2016/02/sci-hub-as-necessary-effect...
- dredmorbius 9y agoNice. Submitted: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14632603 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14632603
- nayuki 9y agoThe web site is being hostile by thrusting this message upon me: "Your browser is blocking some features of this website. Please follow the instructions at [...] to unblock these." Does the author not believe in the civil disobedience of ad-blocking?
- a_bonobo 9y agoLooks like this comes from a wordpress plugin (The Champ), I don't think the author knows that blocking JavaScript triggers this
- pzh 9y agoWhy Elsevier would feel entitled to the copyright of publicly funded research is beyond anyone's guess. This ruling actually makes me realize that SciHub is a single point of failure, and if it gets closed, there won't be anything else to replace it. Unlike the thousands of torrents and streaming sites for movies and TV shows, research paper sites aren't something that the average Internet users care about.
- JamesBarney 9y agoDoes sci hub offer a dump of all there papers on a torrent site?
- hd4 9y agoNot that I know of but that would be logical.
- ycmbntrthrwaway 9y agoLibrary Genesis is a caching backend for scihub. Scihub is a number of proxies, but already downloaded articles are not going anywhere in case of takedown. Libgen offers torrent and usenet downloads. The best way to help is by joining https://genofond.org/viewtopic.php?p=9000/ https://genofond.org/viewtopic.php?p=9000/ and working on mirrors, software and all kinds of related projects. Donations are great, but decentralization can't happen if no new members are joining the librarian community. See "14. How do I upload papers to the Scientific Article section? Is it possible at all?" on how to upload articles you downloaded via scihub to libgen.
- macsj200 9y agoI get a cert revoked error when visiting that site in Chrome 58.0.3029.110 (64-bit)
- ycmbntrthrwaway 9y agoIt is signed by WoSign. Firefox is ok with it for now, but StartCom and WoSign are going to be removed eventually in favor of Let's Encrypt. See https://security.googleblog.com/2016/10/distrusting-wosign-and-startcom.html https://security.googleblog.com/2016/10/distrusting-wosign-a...
- hd4 9y agoThe 2nd time in a week I need the wisdom of Pravin Lal in a thread about free information? "As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."
- dredmorbius 9y agoWho or what is Pravin Lal?
- PeterisP 9y agoA fictional character in a 1999 sci-fi strategy game Alpha Centauri. It has some quite memorable quotes about technology and society.
- Bakary 9y agoTime for you to enter the punishment sphere, citizen!
- ziotom78 9y agoI cannot say how useful Alexandra's work has been for me. Apart from the fact that subscription prices to scientific journals have increased significantly in the last years, in the same period Italy has severely cut research funding. As a result, my department's library has had to cut a number of subscriptions to journals that are very important in my field. (The funny part is that since a few years the Italian government is evaluating universities according to the number of articles published by the staff, their citation count, and the prestige of the journal where these articles have been published...). Without SciHub, my research and my work would have been made much more difficult. Thank you, Alexandra!
- xtracto 9y agoThis is the kind of thing that should be massively mirrored in onion links.
- dredmorbius 9y agoIt is.
- zeep 9y agoI think that you can download the 10s of terabytes using the torrent files found here: http://libgen.io/scimag/repository_torrent_notforall/ http://libgen.io/scimag/repository_torrent_notforall/
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- TheGorramBatman 9y agoElsevier is from the Netherlands, not the USA.
- davidgerard 9y agoRepeat after me: Elsevier delenda est.
- JPLeRouzic 9y agoI had access through my job and through university to Elsevier and other paywalled repositories. I avoid papers found in "ScienceDirect", not because of some moral position, but I found often that their abstract does no seem so useful for me. Oftentime there are lot of jargon and it is hard to figure out what is new and what take home points there are. The reader may get the impression that they try hard to oversell their stuff. I even prefer some free publishers who have a much lower reputation like Indawi. I have a different but still related problem with IEEE: On every subject it seems there are tons of papers, so it is difficult to appreciate the relative value of each paper. I have no problem with Nature and some other paywalled publishers.
- tnzn 9y agoPrivate property is theft
- agumonkey 9y agoHow many people used sci hub to this day ? how many donated ? 150K persons donating 10$ (even though the fine basis is debatable)..
- williamle8300 9y agoIf history tells us anything another Sci-Hub or more powerful reiteration will surface and will eventually "win." You can't contain ideas.
- frozenport 9y agoElsevier is based in Amsterdam, Netherlands[1] [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsevier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsevier
- Tomminn 9y agoBecause of sci-hub, scientists such as myself no longer need anything more than food, an internet connection and some shelter to do first class theoretical work. It cannot be emphasized enough how much of a boon this is for scientists who don't have good journal access, which is the majority of scientists. In creating it, Elbakyan has probably done far more for humanity than Musk will do in his life, and I am a massive fan of Musk. If it goes down, it will be a tragedy for our species.