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From a UX (and potentially legal) standpoint, it matters less how many warnings he ignored in the few minutes prior to the crash, but how many warnings he—and o
by basseq 9y ago
From a UX (and potentially legal) standpoint, it matters less how many warnings he ignored in the few minutes prior to the crash, but how many warnings he—and others—ignored on other drives.
By way of extreme example, if every time anyone engaged autopilot, it issued a warning every minute, you would quickly ignore them. Information fatigue.
- tapatio 9y agoExactly!
- pwthornton 9y agoMy Subaru has loud alarms and beeps when you depart a lane or when the Eyesight tech is having issues due to really bad weather. It catches your attention. I think the key is for it to be sharp, cutting and to not stop until you correct the issue. Think of all of those space movies where something goes wrong and alarms are blaring for sensors and systems.
- agumonkey 9y agoI'd love to read anything related to in-driving implicit communication channels. If anyone knows books, articles, ideas, pionneers (cars, bikes, boats, planes, NASA)
- falcolas 9y ago> beeps when you depart a lane Which is super annoying when driving on narrow two-lane roads, since you're usually almost on top of the line when you're driving perfectly straight down the center of the road.
- legolas2412 9y agoThe feature should be disabled then. That should also be an option.
- RickHull 9y ago> Since the crash, those reports have said, Tesla has updated its Autopilot feature to include a strikeout system, whereby drivers who repeatedly ignore safety warnings risk having their Autopilot disabled until the next time they start the car. Looks like this concern has been addressed already.
- mtgx 9y agoThe "addressing of concerns" seems to happen only when people die in accidents with Tesla. They never seem to be too pro-active about this sort of safety features, despite the fact that they like to tout Teslas as the safest cars.
- _1 9y ago...next time might be too late. I'm pretty sure BMWs will pull over if you ignore the steering wheel for too long.
- thinkfurther 9y agoOne concern is also whether this is fair criticism or talking shit about a dead person. Any changes that came after the crash are completely irrelevant to that concern.
- MBCook 9y agoThey're relevant because much of this could have been easily foreseen. Some of these safety warnings have been on others cars since the features were first deployed in other brands. Tesla didn't include them and marketed it as 'autopilot' in a way that really seems kind of reckless to me.
- Sohcahtoa82 9y ago> talking shit about a dead person Being dead does not automatically command more respect. If someone's fuck-up caused them to die, there's nothing wrong with criticizing them for their fuck-up.
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- koenigdavidmj 9y agoYou're supposed to have your hand on the wheel even with Tesla's autopilot. But you're right; the correct way of enforcing this behavior is that if you disregard it for too long, it parks you safely on the shoulder.
- ebbv 9y agoI don't want to nitpick but; parking on the shoulder is not safe. Don't do it unless it's a real emergency.
- nkrisc 9y agoIt appears that not having your hands on the wheel while autopilot is engaged could perhaps qualify as some kind of emergency, or at the very least, a risky enough situation to justify pulling over.
- koenigdavidmj 9y agoAgreed. "Safe" is not accurate; this is just the best of many bad options, and is what should happen if the car decides for any other reason that it is not auto-drivable.
- striking 9y agoThere's really never a good place for a car to stop. The car is dependent on a human to choose that place. So there's really no way to present the user with an ultimatum besides disabling autopilot on their next drive. edit: I hear the cars engage hazard lights and slow down and stop if one's hands are not on the wheel. I guess that's fine.
- fivestar 9y agoWatching the Youtube videos of Teslas getting confused while on Autopilot made me immediately realize that the tech has a ways to go--there are roads that have odd paint or other odd features that confuse the car and make it choose a path that would get you killed if you didn't manually intervene in time.