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I can't say everything I've heard for NDA reasons but I've been under the impression its use is in future resource-constrained IoT devices, which tend to lack a

I can't say everything I've heard for NDA reasons but I've been under the impression its use is in future resource-constrained IoT devices, which tend to lack a secure, lightweight OS with a unified API. Reverse engineering a certain "smart" nightlight uncovered a minimal Linux 2.6.xx rootfs with telnet open and enabled by default

awordnot 9y ago
What does that have to do with Linux though? Surely it's the manufacturer's fault for leaving telnet open and not updating? How would a new OS solve any of these issues?
- chii 9y ago
  by making these services an OS level concern, the device manufacturer can't screw anything up anymore.
  - awordnot 9y ago
    The OS is going to prevent you from running a userspace telnet daemon? Sounds unlikely.
remir 9y ago
Take a look at the repo. Fuchsia is an OS for mobile devices. The UI is clearly made for phones, they use the Flutter framework, which was made specifically for mobile app development and can target iOS and Android too.
- tyingq 9y ago
  Perhaps. The current set of boot instructions are for a NUC desktop, a laptop, and 2 ARM dev boards though. https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/magenta/+/master/docs/targets/ https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/magenta/+/master/docs/targe...
  - dikaiosune 9y ago
    The hardware in that Acer laptop looks surprisingly similar to what a current flagship phone has in terms of resources if not exact architecture.
    - tyingq 9y ago
      I guess generically in that it has a touchscreen, limited hdd size, etc. It's an i5 Intel x64 CPU though.
      - dikaiosune 9y ago
        I believe my phone runs a 64bit ARM with eight 2.3ghz cores and has the same amount of ram as the base Acer model?
        tyingq 9y ago
        The i5 has 2 cores, different memory bus setup, cache setup, etc. If you're saying it has the same rough level of horsepower, that makes sense. Not at all the same architecture though.
        dikaiosune 9y ago
        > similar to what a current flagship phone has in terms of resources if not exact architecture. :)
- bitmapbrother 9y ago
  >Take a look at the repo. Fuchsia is an OS for mobile devices. The UI is clearly made for phones No it's not. Fuchsia is device agnostic. It's for mobile devices, personal computers, IOT devices, etc. Just because it uses Flutter does not restrict it to mobile devices.
bitmapbrother 9y ago
>I can't say everything I've heard for NDA reasons but I've been under the impression its use is in future resource-constrained IoT devices. I highly doubt that. "Magenta targets modern phones and modern personal computers with fast processors, non-trivial amounts of ram with arbitrary peripherals doing open ended computation" Magenta is the name of the Fuchsia kernel. https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/magenta/+/HEAD/docs/mg_and_lk.md https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/magenta/+/HEAD/docs/mg_and_...

awordnot 9y ago

What does that have to do with Linux though? Surely it's the manufacturer's fault for leaving telnet open and not updating? How would a new OS solve any of these issues?

chii 9y ago
by making these services an OS level concern, the device manufacturer can't screw anything up anymore.
- awordnot 9y ago
  The OS is going to prevent you from running a userspace telnet daemon? Sounds unlikely.

remir 9y ago

Take a look at the repo. Fuchsia is an OS for mobile devices. The UI is clearly made for phones, they use the Flutter framework, which was made specifically for mobile app development and can target iOS and Android too.

tyingq 9y ago
Perhaps. The current set of boot instructions are for a NUC desktop, a laptop, and 2 ARM dev boards though. https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/magenta/+/master/docs/targets/ https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/magenta/+/master/docs/targe...
- dikaiosune 9y ago
  The hardware in that Acer laptop looks surprisingly similar to what a current flagship phone has in terms of resources if not exact architecture.
  - tyingq 9y ago
    I guess generically in that it has a touchscreen, limited hdd size, etc. It's an i5 Intel x64 CPU though.
    - dikaiosune 9y ago
      I believe my phone runs a 64bit ARM with eight 2.3ghz cores and has the same amount of ram as the base Acer model?
      - tyingq 9y ago
        The i5 has 2 cores, different memory bus setup, cache setup, etc. If you're saying it has the same rough level of horsepower, that makes sense. Not at all the same architecture though.
        dikaiosune 9y ago
        > similar to what a current flagship phone has in terms of resources if not exact architecture. :)
bitmapbrother 9y ago
>Take a look at the repo. Fuchsia is an OS for mobile devices. The UI is clearly made for phones No it's not. Fuchsia is device agnostic. It's for mobile devices, personal computers, IOT devices, etc. Just because it uses Flutter does not restrict it to mobile devices.

bitmapbrother 9y ago

>I can't say everything I've heard for NDA reasons but I've been under the impression its use is in future resource-constrained IoT devices. I highly doubt that. "Magenta targets modern phones and modern personal computers with fast processors, non-trivial amounts of ram with arbitrary peripherals doing open ended computation" Magenta is the name of the Fuchsia kernel. https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/magenta/+/HEAD/docs/mg_and_lk.md https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/magenta/+/HEAD/docs/mg_and_...