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What a huge load of cold war thinking. Look at the crap below found in the article: "Then, depending on your level of paranoia, give the ChromeBook away to wha

What a huge load of cold war thinking. Look at the crap below found in the article: "Then, depending on your level of paranoia, give the ChromeBook away to what is likely to be a very thankful kid/student" 133 million foreigners went through Chinese custom and entered China in 2016 - that is a lot of paranoid laptops to give away.

gaius 9y ago
The phrase "coal to Newcastle" springs to mind.
swiley 9y ago
>133 million foreigners went through Chinese custom and entered China in 2016 - that is a lot of paranoid laptops to give away. A lot of laptops that have the wrong keycaps and radio regulatory domain no less.
e12e 9y ago
How many of those 133 million people signed the linux kernel, used by... billions?
jldugger 9y ago
dis-sys, throughout this thread you seem a bit upset, and seem to be carrying luggage on HN in general, given your outsized participation in China-centric threads. I really don't think the post is as negative as you expect. The OP is also the author of LinuxFoundation's laptop security guidelines. LF has been targetted by a number of DDoS's intrustions and worms. At least one was successful, and it's not clear if it was a criminal org, or a state actor disguised as such. So their laptop configuration policy is designed to thwart all comers. Hard drive / swap encryption, SSH keys on GPG cards, secureboot, SELinux, encrypted backups, NoScript, HTTPSEverywhere, FireJail, etc. China's policy appears to be that you must provide them with data should they request it. Making this happen is pretty much in direct contravention of the same laptop configuration policies designed to thwart the NSA, Europeans, Russians, cybercriminals, etc. But lets look at it this way: LF knew the facts on the ground in China, and proceeded anyways. So their IT manager responsible for preventing another break-in publishes a guide for adhering to China's laws while keeping the LF safe. Throughout this thread I see people suggesting that they're never bothered by state apparatus, so nobody should worry. I don't know which of that sentiment's implications is more insulting: that kernel.org isn't worthy of state infiltration, or that China isn't competent enough to pull it off.

gaius 9y ago

The phrase "coal to Newcastle" springs to mind.

swiley 9y ago

>133 million foreigners went through Chinese custom and entered China in 2016 - that is a lot of paranoid laptops to give away. A lot of laptops that have the wrong keycaps and radio regulatory domain no less.

e12e 9y ago

How many of those 133 million people signed the linux kernel, used by... billions?

jldugger 9y ago

dis-sys, throughout this thread you seem a bit upset, and seem to be carrying luggage on HN in general, given your outsized participation in China-centric threads. I really don't think the post is as negative as you expect. The OP is also the author of LinuxFoundation's laptop security guidelines. LF has been targetted by a number of DDoS's intrustions and worms. At least one was successful, and it's not clear if it was a criminal org, or a state actor disguised as such. So their laptop configuration policy is designed to thwart all comers. Hard drive / swap encryption, SSH keys on GPG cards, secureboot, SELinux, encrypted backups, NoScript, HTTPSEverywhere, FireJail, etc. China's policy appears to be that you must provide them with data should they request it. Making this happen is pretty much in direct contravention of the same laptop configuration policies designed to thwart the NSA, Europeans, Russians, cybercriminals, etc. But lets look at it this way: LF knew the facts on the ground in China, and proceeded anyways. So their IT manager responsible for preventing another break-in publishes a guide for adhering to China's laws while keeping the LF safe. Throughout this thread I see people suggesting that they're never bothered by state apparatus, so nobody should worry. I don't know which of that sentiment's implications is more insulting: that kernel.org isn't worthy of state infiltration, or that China isn't competent enough to pull it off.