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Why would spending money on a brand new system with no proof of success be better than a matured application with plugin support?

callumlocke 9y ago
Because GIMP has a lot of baggage: a very particular UI, a community of active users (many of whom probably like it exactly how it is thanks), and a terrible name.
- robotresearcher 9y ago
  So fork it. New name, new UI. Seashore was a try at this a decade ago. http://seashore.sourceforge.net/The_Seashore_Project/Screenshots.html http://seashore.sourceforge.net/The_Seashore_Project/Screens...
  - grogenaut 9y ago
    I think the gp's point is they'd rather rewrite than fork. If you fork you lose the other devs esp as you diverge greatly. But you get all the baggage. A lot of coders doing side projects do it for fun and to learn and that often means making their own architecture decisions (and mistakes) so they can practice that process and learn
    - robotresearcher 9y ago
      Sure. I was responding to the suggestion that the key problems with GIMP are the UI and name. The image manipulation code is surely pretty mature by now.
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- jessaustin 9y ago
  The name was "terrible" right after the film "Pulp Fiction" was released. Decades later, is that still true?
  - slantyyz 9y ago
    That word existed well before Pulp Fiction. From Dictionary.com: >> Usually Disparaging and Offensive. a term used to refer to a person who limps or is lame. >> Origin >> An Americanism dating back to 1920-25; origin uncertain >> Usage note >> When describing someone who is lame, gimp is used with disparaging intent and perceived as insulting. But within the disability community, it is sometimes a term of self-reference.
  - pbhjpbhj 9y ago
    Yes. "Gimp" in UK English is not a word you say in polite company, like calling your software "slut". Sure, it's fine to speak of with a close friend but difficult to even mention to people in certain circles. I don't know what's wrong with calling it "The [GNU] Imp", an imp being like a fairy/pixy (but with a sense of mischief too), like Puck. The mascot could be kept as it fits the description imp as well as it fits anything (I've no idea after c.20 years what it's supposed to be, though I recall looking it up once). Maybe "Imp" is offensive in other languages? (Nothing other than alternate English meanings shows on Wiktionary).
- zanny 9y ago
  This GIT thing is never going to take off because it has a lot of baggage: a very particular CLI and grammar, a community of active users (many of whom probably like it exactly how it is), and a "terrible" name.
epicide 9y ago
You could ask the same question comparing your project with Photoshop.

callumlocke 9y ago

Because GIMP has a lot of baggage: a very particular UI, a community of active users (many of whom probably like it exactly how it is thanks), and a terrible name.

robotresearcher 9y ago
So fork it. New name, new UI. Seashore was a try at this a decade ago. http://seashore.sourceforge.net/The_Seashore_Project/Screenshots.html http://seashore.sourceforge.net/The_Seashore_Project/Screens...
- grogenaut 9y ago
  I think the gp's point is they'd rather rewrite than fork. If you fork you lose the other devs esp as you diverge greatly. But you get all the baggage. A lot of coders doing side projects do it for fun and to learn and that often means making their own architecture decisions (and mistakes) so they can practice that process and learn
  - robotresearcher 9y ago
    Sure. I was responding to the suggestion that the key problems with GIMP are the UI and name. The image manipulation code is surely pretty mature by now.
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jessaustin 9y ago
The name was "terrible" right after the film "Pulp Fiction" was released. Decades later, is that still true?
- slantyyz 9y ago
  That word existed well before Pulp Fiction. From Dictionary.com: >> Usually Disparaging and Offensive. a term used to refer to a person who limps or is lame. >> Origin >> An Americanism dating back to 1920-25; origin uncertain >> Usage note >> When describing someone who is lame, gimp is used with disparaging intent and perceived as insulting. But within the disability community, it is sometimes a term of self-reference.
- pbhjpbhj 9y ago
  Yes. "Gimp" in UK English is not a word you say in polite company, like calling your software "slut". Sure, it's fine to speak of with a close friend but difficult to even mention to people in certain circles. I don't know what's wrong with calling it "The [GNU] Imp", an imp being like a fairy/pixy (but with a sense of mischief too), like Puck. The mascot could be kept as it fits the description imp as well as it fits anything (I've no idea after c.20 years what it's supposed to be, though I recall looking it up once). Maybe "Imp" is offensive in other languages? (Nothing other than alternate English meanings shows on Wiktionary).
zanny 9y ago
This GIT thing is never going to take off because it has a lot of baggage: a very particular CLI and grammar, a community of active users (many of whom probably like it exactly how it is), and a "terrible" name.

epicide 9y ago

You could ask the same question comparing your project with Photoshop.