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Offline mode still not available?

ezekg 9y ago
Since my initial product is an API, it's going to have limited support simply due to the nature of the product. You can set up licenses to require periodic check-ins (e.g. phone check-ins or something similar via an online form may work), but other than that, Keygen needs a periodic internet connection. How would you envision Keygen working offline?
- asmosoinio 9y ago
  Not OP, but something like like: 1. Receive code in an email 2. Enter code in app X to license 3. Use app X So maybe a scenario you purposely are not supporting
  - ezekg 9y ago
    Definitely a popular choice. There are open source libararies for public/private key license validation (CocoaFob is a popular one for macOS), and I don't really think this aligns with the current product i.e. the API. Maybe in the future I can expand if there's demand for it, but I'm not sure what I could offer that the open source community can't already offer. :)
    - jetti 9y ago
      > I'm not sure what I could offer that the open source community can't already offer. Support! Offering support when things go wrong is huge.
- dgudkov 9y ago
  Customer logs into a web portal and pastes some hash generated by his/her instance. Then downloads a generated license key for offline use. Alternatively, a license manager installed on-premises that dispatches licenses locally based on a master license key. PS. Internet connection is frequently not available for enterprise software.
  - ezekg 9y ago
    What would be the use of Keygen, then? Not sure if people would pay for what would essentially be a hosted web form that generates a key. I just don't see what value Keygen could bring in that situation, especially considering my initial product is an API. Regarding enterprise--I'm actually focusing on small- to medium-sized businesses right now, not enterprise; offering on-prem plans is as far as I've gone into enterprise-land.
    - dgudkov 9y ago
      >What would be the use of Keygen, then? I don't know. I'm just describing an existing problem that I would like to have a solution for. >a hosted web form that generates a key Not just generates a key, but also ensures that the use pattern complies with the licensing terms. It's the same API but on-premises.
      - ezekg 9y ago
        No problem, just trying to dig a little deeper. :) I do offer on-prem installs of Keygen in a dockerized container i.e. an enterprise plan, so it could most definitely be installed in a locked down network. Other than that, you could also set up a policy that requires licenses to 'check-in' at an interval e.g. once a month to remain valid. You could then set up a web form they could visit that let customers 'check-in' all of their nodes somehow and purchase additional licenses if needed. (Just brain storming here.)

Since my initial product is an API, it's going to have limited support simply due to the nature of the product. You can set up licenses to require periodic check-ins (e.g. phone check-ins or something similar via an online form may work), but other than that, Keygen needs a periodic internet connection. How would you envision Keygen working offline?

asmosoinio 9y ago
Not OP, but something like like: 1. Receive code in an email 2. Enter code in app X to license 3. Use app X So maybe a scenario you purposely are not supporting
- ezekg 9y ago
  Definitely a popular choice. There are open source libararies for public/private key license validation (CocoaFob is a popular one for macOS), and I don't really think this aligns with the current product i.e. the API. Maybe in the future I can expand if there's demand for it, but I'm not sure what I could offer that the open source community can't already offer. :)
  - jetti 9y ago
    > I'm not sure what I could offer that the open source community can't already offer. Support! Offering support when things go wrong is huge.
dgudkov 9y ago
Customer logs into a web portal and pastes some hash generated by his/her instance. Then downloads a generated license key for offline use. Alternatively, a license manager installed on-premises that dispatches licenses locally based on a master license key. PS. Internet connection is frequently not available for enterprise software.
- ezekg 9y ago
  What would be the use of Keygen, then? Not sure if people would pay for what would essentially be a hosted web form that generates a key. I just don't see what value Keygen could bring in that situation, especially considering my initial product is an API. Regarding enterprise--I'm actually focusing on small- to medium-sized businesses right now, not enterprise; offering on-prem plans is as far as I've gone into enterprise-land.
  - dgudkov 9y ago
    >What would be the use of Keygen, then? I don't know. I'm just describing an existing problem that I would like to have a solution for. >a hosted web form that generates a key Not just generates a key, but also ensures that the use pattern complies with the licensing terms. It's the same API but on-premises.
    - ezekg 9y ago
      No problem, just trying to dig a little deeper. :) I do offer on-prem installs of Keygen in a dockerized container i.e. an enterprise plan, so it could most definitely be installed in a locked down network. Other than that, you could also set up a policy that requires licenses to 'check-in' at an interval e.g. once a month to remain valid. You could then set up a web form they could visit that let customers 'check-in' all of their nodes somehow and purchase additional licenses if needed. (Just brain storming here.)