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iOS 4 Update Now Avaliable

75 points by glymor 16y ago

glymor 16y ago
Direct download links: http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/21/ios-4-now-available/comments/28781629/ http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/21/ios-4-now-available/comme...
- spicyj 16y ago
  The other two/three missing links: http://www.tuaw.com/2010/06/21/ios-4-is-now-live-soon-at-itunes/ http://www.tuaw.com/2010/06/21/ios-4-is-now-live-soon-at-itu...
ergo98 16y ago
Worth noting that Android 2.2 "released" a month ago still isn't officially available. Android fan here, by the way.
- jonursenbach 16y ago
  Maybe this'll light the fire under Google's asses to hurry and release it OTA. I'm starting to grow tired of waiting to get it on my Nexus One without downloading the leaked ROM and rooting my device, which I'd really rather not do.
  - nuclear_eclipse 16y ago
    You don't need to root your device to install the unofficial Froyo image. It's still an image signed by Google, so you can use the standard bootloader and flasher on your N1 to install it from the SD card. I did this with mine and my wife's N1, and neither one has an unlocked bootloader, and neither one has rooted firmware.
    - ergo98 16y ago
      Dunno about the other chap, however I own an "AT&T" EPE54b image device, and for us the only option is to root, roll-back to a incompatible image, and then roll forward to Froyo. Easy enough, but this phone is an important communications device for me and I don't want to mess around with betas. It's just surprising that Google has mangled this release so badly.
      - jonursenbach 16y ago
        Yeah I'm running the EPE54b image and I need to root to get the unofficial/unreleased/leaked Google image.
      - nuclear_eclipse 16y ago
        Sounds like your devices are not being controlled by Google, but are instead being left in AT&T's hands... I'm very sorry to hear that, but it shows yet again that AT&T is the weakest link...
        ben1040 16y ago
        AT&T has nothing to do with the "AT&T" N1, and 2.2 is not officially out for any N1 model, be it the T-Mobile version or AT&T/Rogers version. The devices getting the Froyo update via OTA right now are a subset of the AWS-compatible phones that Google first released in January, and handed out to the press and Google employees. In other words, there's no Froyo update for the N1 made for the AT&T/Rogers bands because Google's not using them to dogfood the OS image right now. edit: now if we get into how there are some apps you can't get on the Android Market because AT&T told Google you can't have them, that's something slimy that AT&T is doing. For example, if there's an AT&T SIM in your phone, the Market won't let you download PDANet. Pull the sim, though, and there it is...
- famsam 16y ago
  I believe I can get a phone at T-Mobil with 2.2. Too bad that it isn't available through other channels.
- dpcan 16y ago
  Maybe it's not available, but I've already been fixing problems with my apps that are showing up on 2.2 devices. Customers are emailing already, so it's getting out there.
  - ergo98 16y ago
    Out of curiousity what sort of problems have you needed to fix? Were you using private APIs or the like?
    - dpcan 16y ago
      I was using BitmapFactory to decode resources and display bitmaps on the canvas. Then I was using getPixel to get colors off the bitmaps. I noticed that in 2.2 my color values were all over the place. I found out that I then had to use BitmapFactory.options to disable automatic dithering and resizing which must have been defaults prior to the 2.2 upgrade. I hate when default values for any functions are changed in updates, and this is the one I ran across in the 2.2 update.
- zyb09 16y ago
  Kind of off-topic, but since it's a discussion about iOS and Android, you know what I think would be the best thing ever that could happen to the iPhone? If Apple would officially support dual-booting Android. Think about it, Apple could claim making the best device (in terms of display quality, hardware, manufacturing), but also would be the only phone on the market that lets you use the 2 best phone OS's at the same time. It would be kind of an advanced feature, so it wouldn't interfere with the 'user experience' of the normal consumer. Basically full of win for everybody. Of course I can expect this to happen when hell freezes over I guess.
  - albertzeyer 16y ago
    Hehe, yes. Reminds me of BootCamp. Before that, also nobody would have believed that Apple will ever allow that officially.
  - OmarIsmail 16y ago
    This is already pretty much possible. A jailbroken iPhone gives you the best of both worlds - and you don't even need to go through the hassle of dual booting. And it's actually ridiculously easy to get up and running. I would argue that a jailbroken iPhone is currently the best device available. You get Apple's slick UI and ease of use alongside Android's restriction-free environment. Interesting anecdote: I actually turned off multitasking with my jailbroken iPhone. Except for some very specific cases I think most people are going to find multitasking not a big deal at all.
    - zyb09 16y ago
      Well I've seen Android booting on a 3GS but that's not very stable as of know, is it? If someone manages to get Froyo running flawless on an iPhone4 with all the hardware support (camera, dual-mic, gyro, compass etc.) I would probably get one (don't have much love for iOS).
  - kristiandupont 16y ago
    Cool, sure. But I cannot think up one scenario where I would use it.
dcurtis 16y ago
If you're a developer, the version released today is the same build as the one that has been available as the GM Seed since WWDC. No need to upgrade. Edit: apparently there are a couple differences. Game center isn't installed in the "retail" version, and there seems to be at least one fixed bug on non-3GS devices (see comment below). But the build is the same.
- Janteh 16y ago
  So the version number is 8A293? edit: Oops, easy to confirm via the URL. It is 8A293 indeed.
- ptomato 16y ago
  With the exception that Game Center is not enabled on this version as of yet.
- weaksauce 16y ago
  Just as a forewarning, I lost a few pictures and a couple apps that I downloaded when the beta 4 expired and would not let me backup/transfer anything from the phone until I did a restore. I would advise to upgrade to this just in case it has an expiration date built in too.
- ugh 16y ago
  Nah, it’s not the same. The “no-default-wallpapers-on-iPod-touches-3G”-bug is gone.
- quellhorst 16y ago
  I tried to upgrade, but it said I was using the latest.
amichail 16y ago
It's taking forever to do the backup. I wonder if there's something wrong.
- ComSubVie 16y ago
  That was also the case with the GM release, so this may be normal.
  - amichail 16y ago
    How much time does it take?
    - ComSubVie 16y ago
      I can't remember exactly, but the whole upgrade process (including backup) needed somewhere between half an hour and an hour (on my 3G).
    - kxs 16y ago
      My update took about 45min (3G). But I don't have that much data on it, only ~4gigs.
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- michaelbuckbee 16y ago
  Directly connecting my iphone to my mbp (instead of through a USB hub) helped cut down on the time for the backup.
- redstripe 16y ago
  Do you have a software firewall installed? I think I remember itunes using IP to talk to the background backup app.
rbanffy 16y ago
It makes me really unhappy with Apple that the 1st generation iPhones and iPods, although having the same processor and memory as the 2nd generation ones, were made incompatible with this release. It's not nice when a hardware maker dictates I should buy a new gizmo to enjoy the features practically identical gizmos have access to.
- rauljara 16y ago
  This is not true. The original iPhone and iPhone 3g only had 128mb of ram. The 3gs has 256mb. http://www.macrumors.com/2010/06/17/iphone-4-confirmed-to-have-512mb-of-ram-twice-the-ipad-and-3gs/ http://www.macrumors.com/2010/06/17/iphone-4-confirmed-to-ha...
  - jolan 16y ago
    > This is not true. The original iPhone and iPhone 3g only had 128mb of ram. The 3gs has 256mb. You're misinterpreting his statement. The original iPhone model had 128MB. The iPhone 3G has 128MB. The original model is not supported under 4.0 but the 3G is.
  - xsmasher 16y ago
    He said 1st vs 2nd gen, not 3rd. The iPhone 3G gets this updates, and it has the same amount of ram as the first generation iPhone / iPod touch. Same CPU too. There may be a technical reason, but that isn't it.
    - redrobot5050 16y ago
      Maybe the lack of a GPS? Also, the 1st Gen iPhone has the lowest-rated battery life. Maybe those two factors led Apple to drop it. Maybe iOS 4.0 consumes more power, because of CPU utilization and the experience was unfavorable. Then again, I bought my 3G a month before the 3GS came out. Verizon screwed up their deployment of towers in my area, at a time when I was job hunting and needed to make/take cell phone calls. So I had to switch (before the 3GS was release). But again, I've had my phone for less than a year, and it would suck to have it be obsoleted/EOL'd by Apple. They probably don't WANT to keep it around, but for customers like me, who want their device supported for more than 13 months, they kept it.
nanexcool 16y ago
Any word on iBooks? I'm not seeing it yet, only for the iPad.
- DannoHung 16y ago
  I see it on the iPhone app store. Looks like it's the right version, but it says you need an iPad? I dunno. Guess I'll find out tonight.
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- ptomato 16y ago
  http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ibooks/id364709193?mt=8 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ibooks/id364709193?mt=8 should get you it now. Otherwise it may take some time to propagate.
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Nogwater 16y ago
Does anybody have a list that shows which of the new features are available on the old 3G model? Is it just the multitasking and video that don't work?
- tempblah 16y ago
  I've been running it on my 3G and the only things I've noticed are multitasking, video, wallpaper on springboard, and the new iPod controls. Because it doesn't have the new iPod controls it seems it does not have the ability to lock the orientation in portrait mode. There may be more but these are what I've noticed.
- heyjonboy 16y ago
  I had been looking forward to orientation locking (http://www.tuaw.com/2010/05/04/iphone-os-4-beta-3-adds-orientation-lock-ipod-controls-to-multi/ http://www.tuaw.com/2010/05/04/iphone-os-4-beta-3-adds-orien...). Apparently they tied that feature to multitasking, so no orientation locking on 3G.
- gaiusparx 16y ago
  http://sanziro.com/2010/06/ios-4-missing-features-in-iphone-3g-and-second-generation-ipod-touch.html http://sanziro.com/2010/06/ios-4-missing-features-in-iphone-...
gourneau 16y ago
Does anyone know if mobile Safari supports websockets yet?
- rmoriz 16y ago
  If you have an iOS 4 iPhone could you do us a favour and access http://vm.io/wm http://vm.io/wm and click "connect". A near-real-time twitter feed should appear if WebSockets are supported (tested w Safari5 Desktop, Chrome 6). Please share your results. Thanks!
  - rufo 16y ago
    Doesn't look like it does just yet (3GS, iOS 4 GM seed).
mortenjorck 16y ago
Hmm. The iPod app has become very unstable for me. After downloading a podcast, it reliably crashes to the home screen when switching tabs. I will say it is crashing to a very nice looking home screen, in any case.
paul9290 16y ago
Ive been using the final build for two weeks and been having a mail issue. I use the mail client to receive and send my Gmails. Many times the count number even after checking my mail remains and the count is wrong due me seeing in the mail client phantom emails with no content. Also it does not do search well returns no results at times but when I go to gmail on web search works fine. Hope they fix this a bit annoying.
- jawngee 16y ago
  Yeah I ran into the same issue, but it went away eventually.
sophacles 16y ago
Am I the only person who consistently sees headlines like this and thinks "I thought cisco was on version 15 or something, wtf?" only to be reminded of that other ios?
- DavidSJ 16y ago
  Amusingly, Cisco also had a trademark on the name iPhone.
chmike 16y ago
Is there any chance to become available for the iPad too? I'm very happy of my iPad. I could not stand up from my bed this morning because of incredible back pain when I stand up. This lasted all day and will probably tomorrow too. I really enjoyed the iPad.
- glhaynes 16y ago
  I believe the most precise date they've given for iOS 4 on iPad is "this Fall".
mike_h 16y ago
Careful if you have a 3G -- twitter reports are saying the new OS is even slower than 3.x: http://twitter.com/#search?q=ios4%203g%20slow http://twitter.com/#search?q=ios4%203g%20slow
- kxs 16y ago
  I've just updated and it certainly feels slower. Menus take forever to load.
- potatolicious 16y ago
  This is very strange - OS4 feels distinctly snappier on my 3GS.
  - ZeroGravitas 16y ago
    General consensus seems to be 3GS is faster, 3G is slower.
- Hates_ 16y ago
  I found that another restart improved the speed dramatically.
redrobot5050 16y ago
I have heard rumors that iOS 4 is going to be a little pokey (as in slow pokey) on the iPhone 3G. Can anyone attest to that? Or refute that statement? And does anyone know of a site showing how to downgrade if I decide it is too slow and I want to revert back to iPhone OS 3.1.3? (Sorry to ask, but I figured this crowd would know the answers to both of my questions off the bat.)
- kxs 16y ago
  It feels slower. It seems to be possible to downgrade from iOS 4: http://translate.google.de/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.apfeltalk.de%2Fforum%2Fanleitung-downgrade-ios-t313210.html&sl=de&tl=en http://translate.google.de/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl...
- pistoriusp 16y ago
  When I was running the GM version is was very slow. This release seems tons faster.
- ojilles 16y ago
  Yep, I definitely think so. Bookmarking something to the homescreen takes at least 4+ sec's, changing the wallpaper took at least 7 secs, sliding through emails now has hickups, etc. iPhone 4 already ordered ;-D
- watmough 16y ago
  Just upgraded my wife's 3G, and it feels great, but then I'm used to my original day 1 iPhone, so not really sure, but ios 4 on the 3G feels plenty fast to me.
- Maktab 16y ago
  It was a bit slow at first, but after a restart and a few minutes of usage it seemed to be back to its old speeds.
rimantas 16y ago
iPhone 3G owners (like myself) may want to check this http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4204 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4204
- mikeryan 16y ago
  blarg - multi-tasking was the one update I wanted.
nickpp 16y ago
Updated and it promptly lost ALL my contacts. Looks like some conflict with Google Sync which conveniently went offline afterward... Teaches me well to install software on release day, next time let others test it first...
bradgessler 16y ago
Pandora is finally useful.
sailormoon 16y ago
How come it says tethering is new? Tethering has been available on the 3GS for ages, I've used it numerous times.
- j_baker 16y ago
  Are you in Europe? In the US, AT&T forbids tethering. I think the new update allows you to tether but you have to pay for it.
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pcc 16y ago
It seems many are having issues with gmail via exchange/activesync on iOS 4 eg http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=932449 http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=932449 http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=5e07dc8778026255&hl=en&start=80 http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=5e07d...

75 points by glymor 16y ago

Direct download links: http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/21/ios-4-now-available/comments/28781629/ http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/21/ios-4-now-available/comme...

spicyj 16y ago
The other two/three missing links: http://www.tuaw.com/2010/06/21/ios-4-is-now-live-soon-at-itunes/ http://www.tuaw.com/2010/06/21/ios-4-is-now-live-soon-at-itu...

ergo98 16y ago

Worth noting that Android 2.2 "released" a month ago still isn't officially available. Android fan here, by the way.

jonursenbach 16y ago
Maybe this'll light the fire under Google's asses to hurry and release it OTA. I'm starting to grow tired of waiting to get it on my Nexus One without downloading the leaked ROM and rooting my device, which I'd really rather not do.
- nuclear_eclipse 16y ago
  You don't need to root your device to install the unofficial Froyo image. It's still an image signed by Google, so you can use the standard bootloader and flasher on your N1 to install it from the SD card. I did this with mine and my wife's N1, and neither one has an unlocked bootloader, and neither one has rooted firmware.
  - ergo98 16y ago
    Dunno about the other chap, however I own an "AT&T" EPE54b image device, and for us the only option is to root, roll-back to a incompatible image, and then roll forward to Froyo. Easy enough, but this phone is an important communications device for me and I don't want to mess around with betas. It's just surprising that Google has mangled this release so badly.
    - jonursenbach 16y ago
      Yeah I'm running the EPE54b image and I need to root to get the unofficial/unreleased/leaked Google image.
    - nuclear_eclipse 16y ago
      Sounds like your devices are not being controlled by Google, but are instead being left in AT&T's hands... I'm very sorry to hear that, but it shows yet again that AT&T is the weakest link...
      - ben1040 16y ago
        AT&T has nothing to do with the "AT&T" N1, and 2.2 is not officially out for any N1 model, be it the T-Mobile version or AT&T/Rogers version. The devices getting the Froyo update via OTA right now are a subset of the AWS-compatible phones that Google first released in January, and handed out to the press and Google employees. In other words, there's no Froyo update for the N1 made for the AT&T/Rogers bands because Google's not using them to dogfood the OS image right now. edit: now if we get into how there are some apps you can't get on the Android Market because AT&T told Google you can't have them, that's something slimy that AT&T is doing. For example, if there's an AT&T SIM in your phone, the Market won't let you download PDANet. Pull the sim, though, and there it is...
famsam 16y ago
I believe I can get a phone at T-Mobil with 2.2. Too bad that it isn't available through other channels.
dpcan 16y ago
Maybe it's not available, but I've already been fixing problems with my apps that are showing up on 2.2 devices. Customers are emailing already, so it's getting out there.
- ergo98 16y ago
  Out of curiousity what sort of problems have you needed to fix? Were you using private APIs or the like?
  - dpcan 16y ago
    I was using BitmapFactory to decode resources and display bitmaps on the canvas. Then I was using getPixel to get colors off the bitmaps. I noticed that in 2.2 my color values were all over the place. I found out that I then had to use BitmapFactory.options to disable automatic dithering and resizing which must have been defaults prior to the 2.2 upgrade. I hate when default values for any functions are changed in updates, and this is the one I ran across in the 2.2 update.
zyb09 16y ago
Kind of off-topic, but since it's a discussion about iOS and Android, you know what I think would be the best thing ever that could happen to the iPhone? If Apple would officially support dual-booting Android. Think about it, Apple could claim making the best device (in terms of display quality, hardware, manufacturing), but also would be the only phone on the market that lets you use the 2 best phone OS's at the same time. It would be kind of an advanced feature, so it wouldn't interfere with the 'user experience' of the normal consumer. Basically full of win for everybody. Of course I can expect this to happen when hell freezes over I guess.
- albertzeyer 16y ago
  Hehe, yes. Reminds me of BootCamp. Before that, also nobody would have believed that Apple will ever allow that officially.
- OmarIsmail 16y ago
  This is already pretty much possible. A jailbroken iPhone gives you the best of both worlds - and you don't even need to go through the hassle of dual booting. And it's actually ridiculously easy to get up and running. I would argue that a jailbroken iPhone is currently the best device available. You get Apple's slick UI and ease of use alongside Android's restriction-free environment. Interesting anecdote: I actually turned off multitasking with my jailbroken iPhone. Except for some very specific cases I think most people are going to find multitasking not a big deal at all.
  - zyb09 16y ago
    Well I've seen Android booting on a 3GS but that's not very stable as of know, is it? If someone manages to get Froyo running flawless on an iPhone4 with all the hardware support (camera, dual-mic, gyro, compass etc.) I would probably get one (don't have much love for iOS).
- kristiandupont 16y ago
  Cool, sure. But I cannot think up one scenario where I would use it.

dcurtis 16y ago

If you're a developer, the version released today is the same build as the one that has been available as the GM Seed since WWDC. No need to upgrade. Edit: apparently there are a couple differences. Game center isn't installed in the "retail" version, and there seems to be at least one fixed bug on non-3GS devices (see comment below). But the build is the same.

Janteh 16y ago
So the version number is 8A293? edit: Oops, easy to confirm via the URL. It is 8A293 indeed.
ptomato 16y ago
With the exception that Game Center is not enabled on this version as of yet.
weaksauce 16y ago
Just as a forewarning, I lost a few pictures and a couple apps that I downloaded when the beta 4 expired and would not let me backup/transfer anything from the phone until I did a restore. I would advise to upgrade to this just in case it has an expiration date built in too.
ugh 16y ago
Nah, it’s not the same. The “no-default-wallpapers-on-iPod-touches-3G”-bug is gone.
quellhorst 16y ago
I tried to upgrade, but it said I was using the latest.

amichail 16y ago

It's taking forever to do the backup. I wonder if there's something wrong.

ComSubVie 16y ago
That was also the case with the GM release, so this may be normal.
- amichail 16y ago
  How much time does it take?
  - ComSubVie 16y ago
    I can't remember exactly, but the whole upgrade process (including backup) needed somewhere between half an hour and an hour (on my 3G).
  - kxs 16y ago
    My update took about 45min (3G). But I don't have that much data on it, only ~4gigs.
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michaelbuckbee 16y ago
Directly connecting my iphone to my mbp (instead of through a USB hub) helped cut down on the time for the backup.
redstripe 16y ago
Do you have a software firewall installed? I think I remember itunes using IP to talk to the background backup app.

rbanffy 16y ago

It makes me really unhappy with Apple that the 1st generation iPhones and iPods, although having the same processor and memory as the 2nd generation ones, were made incompatible with this release. It's not nice when a hardware maker dictates I should buy a new gizmo to enjoy the features practically identical gizmos have access to.

rauljara 16y ago
This is not true. The original iPhone and iPhone 3g only had 128mb of ram. The 3gs has 256mb. http://www.macrumors.com/2010/06/17/iphone-4-confirmed-to-have-512mb-of-ram-twice-the-ipad-and-3gs/ http://www.macrumors.com/2010/06/17/iphone-4-confirmed-to-ha...
- jolan 16y ago
  > This is not true. The original iPhone and iPhone 3g only had 128mb of ram. The 3gs has 256mb. You're misinterpreting his statement. The original iPhone model had 128MB. The iPhone 3G has 128MB. The original model is not supported under 4.0 but the 3G is.
- xsmasher 16y ago
  He said 1st vs 2nd gen, not 3rd. The iPhone 3G gets this updates, and it has the same amount of ram as the first generation iPhone / iPod touch. Same CPU too. There may be a technical reason, but that isn't it.
  - redrobot5050 16y ago
    Maybe the lack of a GPS? Also, the 1st Gen iPhone has the lowest-rated battery life. Maybe those two factors led Apple to drop it. Maybe iOS 4.0 consumes more power, because of CPU utilization and the experience was unfavorable. Then again, I bought my 3G a month before the 3GS came out. Verizon screwed up their deployment of towers in my area, at a time when I was job hunting and needed to make/take cell phone calls. So I had to switch (before the 3GS was release). But again, I've had my phone for less than a year, and it would suck to have it be obsoleted/EOL'd by Apple. They probably don't WANT to keep it around, but for customers like me, who want their device supported for more than 13 months, they kept it.

nanexcool 16y ago

Any word on iBooks? I'm not seeing it yet, only for the iPad.

DannoHung 16y ago
I see it on the iPhone app store. Looks like it's the right version, but it says you need an iPad? I dunno. Guess I'll find out tonight.
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ptomato 16y ago
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ibooks/id364709193?mt=8 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ibooks/id364709193?mt=8 should get you it now. Otherwise it may take some time to propagate.

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Nogwater 16y ago

Does anybody have a list that shows which of the new features are available on the old 3G model? Is it just the multitasking and video that don't work?

tempblah 16y ago
I've been running it on my 3G and the only things I've noticed are multitasking, video, wallpaper on springboard, and the new iPod controls. Because it doesn't have the new iPod controls it seems it does not have the ability to lock the orientation in portrait mode. There may be more but these are what I've noticed.
heyjonboy 16y ago
I had been looking forward to orientation locking (http://www.tuaw.com/2010/05/04/iphone-os-4-beta-3-adds-orientation-lock-ipod-controls-to-multi/ http://www.tuaw.com/2010/05/04/iphone-os-4-beta-3-adds-orien...). Apparently they tied that feature to multitasking, so no orientation locking on 3G.
gaiusparx 16y ago
http://sanziro.com/2010/06/ios-4-missing-features-in-iphone-3g-and-second-generation-ipod-touch.html http://sanziro.com/2010/06/ios-4-missing-features-in-iphone-...

gourneau 16y ago

Does anyone know if mobile Safari supports websockets yet?

rmoriz 16y ago
If you have an iOS 4 iPhone could you do us a favour and access http://vm.io/wm http://vm.io/wm and click "connect". A near-real-time twitter feed should appear if WebSockets are supported (tested w Safari5 Desktop, Chrome 6). Please share your results. Thanks!
- rufo 16y ago
  Doesn't look like it does just yet (3GS, iOS 4 GM seed).

mortenjorck 16y ago

Hmm. The iPod app has become very unstable for me. After downloading a podcast, it reliably crashes to the home screen when switching tabs. I will say it is crashing to a very nice looking home screen, in any case.

paul9290 16y ago

Ive been using the final build for two weeks and been having a mail issue. I use the mail client to receive and send my Gmails. Many times the count number even after checking my mail remains and the count is wrong due me seeing in the mail client phantom emails with no content. Also it does not do search well returns no results at times but when I go to gmail on web search works fine. Hope they fix this a bit annoying.

jawngee 16y ago
Yeah I ran into the same issue, but it went away eventually.

sophacles 16y ago

Am I the only person who consistently sees headlines like this and thinks "I thought cisco was on version 15 or something, wtf?" only to be reminded of that other ios?

DavidSJ 16y ago
Amusingly, Cisco also had a trademark on the name iPhone.

chmike 16y ago

Is there any chance to become available for the iPad too? I'm very happy of my iPad. I could not stand up from my bed this morning because of incredible back pain when I stand up. This lasted all day and will probably tomorrow too. I really enjoyed the iPad.

glhaynes 16y ago
I believe the most precise date they've given for iOS 4 on iPad is "this Fall".

mike_h 16y ago

Careful if you have a 3G -- twitter reports are saying the new OS is even slower than 3.x: http://twitter.com/#search?q=ios4%203g%20slow http://twitter.com/#search?q=ios4%203g%20slow

kxs 16y ago
I've just updated and it certainly feels slower. Menus take forever to load.
potatolicious 16y ago
This is very strange - OS4 feels distinctly snappier on my 3GS.
- ZeroGravitas 16y ago
  General consensus seems to be 3GS is faster, 3G is slower.
Hates_ 16y ago
I found that another restart improved the speed dramatically.

redrobot5050 16y ago

I have heard rumors that iOS 4 is going to be a little pokey (as in slow pokey) on the iPhone 3G. Can anyone attest to that? Or refute that statement? And does anyone know of a site showing how to downgrade if I decide it is too slow and I want to revert back to iPhone OS 3.1.3? (Sorry to ask, but I figured this crowd would know the answers to both of my questions off the bat.)

kxs 16y ago
It feels slower. It seems to be possible to downgrade from iOS 4: http://translate.google.de/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.apfeltalk.de%2Fforum%2Fanleitung-downgrade-ios-t313210.html&sl=de&tl=en http://translate.google.de/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl...
pistoriusp 16y ago
When I was running the GM version is was very slow. This release seems tons faster.
ojilles 16y ago
Yep, I definitely think so. Bookmarking something to the homescreen takes at least 4+ sec's, changing the wallpaper took at least 7 secs, sliding through emails now has hickups, etc. iPhone 4 already ordered ;-D
watmough 16y ago
Just upgraded my wife's 3G, and it feels great, but then I'm used to my original day 1 iPhone, so not really sure, but ios 4 on the 3G feels plenty fast to me.
Maktab 16y ago
It was a bit slow at first, but after a restart and a few minutes of usage it seemed to be back to its old speeds.

rimantas 16y ago

iPhone 3G owners (like myself) may want to check this http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4204 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4204

mikeryan 16y ago
blarg - multi-tasking was the one update I wanted.

nickpp 16y ago

Updated and it promptly lost ALL my contacts. Looks like some conflict with Google Sync which conveniently went offline afterward... Teaches me well to install software on release day, next time let others test it first...

bradgessler 16y ago

Pandora is finally useful.

sailormoon 16y ago

How come it says tethering is new? Tethering has been available on the 3GS for ages, I've used it numerous times.

j_baker 16y ago
Are you in Europe? In the US, AT&T forbids tethering. I think the new update allows you to tether but you have to pay for it.
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pcc 16y ago

It seems many are having issues with gmail via exchange/activesync on iOS 4 eg http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=932449 http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=932449 http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=5e07dc8778026255&hl=en&start=80 http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=5e07d...