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Intel Announces Skylake-X: Bringing 18-Core HCC Silicon to Consumers
- pulse7 9y agoSo the ultimate question is now, how much the ThreadRipper will cost...
- Noctix 9y agoCan this be stated as an effect of Ryzen launch?
- redtuesday 9y agoProbably, but more likely because of AMD's HEDT (high end dedktop) platform called Threadripper which will have up to 16 cores (32 Threads). Before AMD announced Threadripper Intel had only a 12 core chip on the roadmap for the x299 platform, and charged around 1700$ for their 10 core chip. Now they will be charging 2000$ for 18 cores. Competition is such a nice thing. Glad that AMD is back in the CPU game. Can only be good for us customers.
- positivecomment 9y agoI'm personally looking forward to the times that this competition drastically lowers the price of mid-range CPUs for the benefit of the normal people who don't buy CPUs for 2000$. (Yes, I know that "normal people" don't even buy laptops anymore, let alone desktops. Please excuse my fantasy-world in which people buy desktop computers and even upgrade the amplifiers of their at least 7-piece stereo sound system)
- lhl 9y agoThe AMD Ryzen R7 1700 is a $320 8 core/16 thread processor. Intel's cheapest 8 core/16 thread processor is their i7-6900K which sells for $1049. Even their 6/12 i7-6850K is over $600. IMO the Ryzen R7's have been a huge "mid-end" win for anyone doing any sort of multicore/CPU intensive work. Without competition, Intel's been gouging the market for the past few years.
- drzaiusapelord 9y ago>drastically lowers the price of mid-range CPUs Well, I think the current mid-range Ryzen's offer significant value and I imagine OEMs will start including them into their popular models sooner than later. 6 cores at 3.6ghz with a 4.0ghz boost for $239. https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-1600X-Processor-YD160XBCAEWOF/dp/B06XKWT7GD https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-1600X-Processor-YD160XBCAEW... More than likely we won't see any kind of price war. Instead we'll see minor price fighting on a per category basis. Intel's mid vs AMD's mid, etc. There's no drive down to the bottom with a duopoly.
- sundvor 9y agoCompetition breeds excellence. :-) EDIT: I was getting excited by the i7-7820X until I saw it has only 28 pcie lanes. Talk about being pushed towards the way more expensive 7900x! My relatively cheaper 6850k has 40 lanes, wonder what the thinking behind this is?
- Zardoz84 9y agoSomeone could explain why is important the number of PCIe lanes ?
- mamon 9y agoIt limits what peripherials can be attached. For instance, single graphic card uses 16 PCIe lanes, so having only 28 lines supported by processor makes it impossible to have two GPUs in SLI mode (ok, not impossible, because motherboard chipset can add some lanes, but performance will suffer) NVMe SSD drives also use some lanes (typicaly 4), and you might want two of them in RAID.
- theandrewbailey 9y agoNumerous tests show that performance is not meaningfully impacted by running two GPUs on 8x PCIe lanes vs 16x lanes, especially when using PCIe 3.0.
- seanp2k2 9y agowith current-gen GPUs That could also change over the next few years.
- vonmoltke 9y agoWhat are the chances you will still be running the CPU and motherboard you buy today in a few years?
- Sephr 9y agoIt's a huge difference for minimum frame times at 4K if you intend on getting a smooth 120fps.
- jacquesm 9y agoIs there any way to see it as something else?
- nerpderp83 9y agoApparently, Intel has years of runway vs AMD. The chips are literally designed and sitting there, only to be released if AMD comes up with something. Intel isn't scrambling in any sense, just announcing stuff that is already designed and built. All AMD was force Intel to release it earlier than their monopoly position was allowing.
- nerpderp83 9y agoThis comment went as high as +4 before being downvoted to -1.
- nerpderp83 9y agoThe down vote behavior is interesting. I simply mention that Intel has an early release of a previously constructed part. Monopolies behave in predictable ways.
- pulse7 9y ago18-core Skylake-X is a luxury good: people will buy it just because it has 2 cores more than the ThreadRipper...
- sgift 9y agoOr problems which actually can be scaled to many cores. There is still a wide range of problems which profit from parallelism but isn't suited for GPU computing.
- reitzensteinm 9y agoOr, you know, 4x the AVX throughput, stronger single threaded performance, and far fewer performance gotchas. Interested in using BMI2 for bit twiddling because you'd like to efficiently manipulate bit matrices? PDEP has a reciprocal throughput of 1 on Skylake, or 18 on Ryzen. Guess it's time to make the tough choice between the top end Threadripper and a Core i3 6320. Intel has positioned these well if the Ryzen price tag rumors are correct. If you're building a workstation with 16 cores, $1k for Ryzen or $1.7k for Skylake is not a straight forward decision. If Ryzen is more than that, I don't see it taking a big bite out of the market. Which isn't surprising, as Intel did just halve the margins on their enthusiast parts...
- quickben 9y ago"If Ryzen is more than that, I don't see it taking a big bite out of the market. Which isn't surprising, as Intel did just halve the margins on their enthusiast parts..." Either it is more than that, and it will take huge chunk of the market, or Intel simply reduced margins out of the goodness of their heart.
- vardump 9y agoSo does it support ECC like AMD? Otherwise not interested.
- masklinn 9y agoI can see no mention of it anywhere and it's a "consumer" chip (for Intel, ECC is a segmentation feature between consumer and server hardware), so probably not.
- simias 9y agoI'll bite: every time I see a CPU-related thread on HN there are a few people clamoring for ECC support. While I get why I'd want ECC on a high-availability server running critical tasks, I don't really feel a massive need for it on a workstation. I mean of course if it's given to me "for free" I'll gladly take it, but otherwise I'll prefer to trade it for more RAM or simply a cheaper build. Why is ECC that much of a big deal for you? Maybe I'm lucky but I manage quite a few computers (at work and at home) and I haven't had a faulty RAM module in at least a year. And even if I do I run memtest to isolate the issue and then order a new module. An inconvenience of course, but pretty minor one IMO. Do you also use redundant power supplies? I think in the past years I've had more issues with broken power supplies than RAM modules.
- muro 9y agohttps://danluu.com/why-ecc/ https://danluu.com/why-ecc/
- mozumder 9y agoUse ECC for workstations to avoid crashes and to extend the lifespan of the system. You start to get more crashes as the years go by. Silicon degrades over time under use.
- matt4077 9y agoPersonally, I mostly value ECC for the sense of superiority it affords.
- jacquesm 9y ago
- gbrown_ 9y ago> Intel hasn’t given many details on AVX-512 yet, regarding whether there is one or two units per CPU, or if it is more granular and is per core. I can't imagine it being more than one per core. For context Knights Landing has two per core but that's a HPC focused product. > We expect it to be enabled on day one, although I have a suspicion there may be a BIOS flag that needs enabling in order to use it. This seems odd. > With the support of AVX-512, Intel is calling the Core i9-7980X ‘the first TeraFLOP CPU’. I’ve asked details as to how this figure is calculated (software, or theoretical) So lets work backwards here the Core i9-7980XE has 18 cores but as of yet the clock speed is not specified. A couple of assumptions: - We're talking double precision FLOPs - We can theoretically do 16 double precision FLOPs per cycle FLOPs per cycle * Cycles per second (frequency) * number of cores =~ 1TF So we can guesstimate the clock frequency being ~3.47Ghz. Edit: In review such a clock speed seems rather high for an 18 core part. I'm not sure if consumer parts will do 32DP FLOPs?
- reitzensteinm 9y agoBut current Intel CPUs already have dual AVX2 units; if it's just one AVX512, there aren't going to really be any gains (though some of the new instructions would be useful). Knight's Landing has two per core, but they are pretty weak in IPC, so even if Skylake also had two they'd still maintain differentiation.
- reitzensteinm 9y agoAlthough even with one unit, having 2x the registers of 2x the width means you can fit a significantly larger working set without spilling to cache... So there still would be benefit even if it's just one unit.
- gpderetta 9y agoyou also get generalized predication which is nice for ease of vectorization. Still, it is very likely that these CPUs have two full vector ALUs per core.
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- josteink 9y agoOh. So now they're making the i9! So it did take AMD and Ryzen to make Intel push it's game from it's 5-6 year long hiatus with the i7 eh? Competition is clearly good :)
- 0xFFC 9y agoImagine what is going happen the moment ARM will attack desktop market share. That's what i am waiting for
- loeg 9y agoARM isn't close to competitive, unfortunately.
- willvarfar 9y agoThe i9 is just a new brand name for the top-tier i7. AMD have been compared favorably to nearly-top-tier i7s. Suddenly, by rebranding the top-tier to i9, Intel put a lot of gap between the i7 and Ryzen in the mind of the punter.
- positivecomment 9y agoWhy would they name it as i9 anyway? I was so sure that it would be i11...
- gigatexal 9y agoYes it is. Though the intel part at 599 for 16 threads will likely be the better choice vs the 1800X.
- jacquesm 9y agoThis really makes me wonder how many more unreleased products Intel has waiting in some drawer somewhere for that case where they have some serious competition. It is also strong proof that without competition Intel is not going to release anything to move the market forward.
- TheArcane 9y agoThis is disheartening.
- Keyframe 9y agoThey probably have a lot in the sleeve: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teraflops_Research_Chip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teraflops_Research_Chip
- coldtea 9y ago>This really makes me wonder how many more unreleased products Intel has waiting in some drawer somewhere for that case where they have some serious competition. Given the churn rate of technology? Probably close to none. It's not like you can wait on CPU technology and have it still be relevant when you finally release it. Except if you mean "potential projects" that still need years, and tons of work and R&D to be finished.
- 69mlgsniperdad 9y agoWho would make such potential products/technologies irrelevant if they have no competitor? If you were generations ahead of the closer competitor, with no threat in sight, seems like you would do exactly as suggested, release new generation processors, with very minor upgrades, taking advantage of those who upgrade every time. Sell everyone three extra i7's before you sell them an i9. Without competition, they control the rate. I think their taking advantage of the lack of competition is also supported by the fact that intel sliced the price in half on several of their mainstream processors in response to the Ryzens release.
- skywhopper 9y agoI doubt they have stuff on the shelf for a rainy day, but it's undeniable that competition encourages them to ramp up R&D, invest in new processes and factories sooner, lower prices, and push the envelope on what's releasable. Sticking to 12 or even 16 core products would be a lot safer for Intel's gross margins.
- Sephr 9y agoIntel has been selling hexa-channel DDR4 Xeons since 2015 to select customers. For users like myself constrained by memory bandwidth I would prefer that they publicly started selling their Skylake-SP Purley platform. In some configurations they even include a 100Gbit/s photonic interconnect and an FPGA for Deep Learning acceleration. I would gladly pay $2500-3500 for an 18-24 core Intel CPU with hexa-channel DDR4 and PCIe 4.0 (or simply more than 44 lanes of 3.0).
- emiliobumachar 9y agoOut of curiosity, why "to select customers" only? I'd suppose the feeling of exclusivity isn't much of a sales point to processor buyers. I supply is constrained, seems like demand could be similarly constrained by a price hike. Do they get better feedback from these select customers? Better acceptance of eventual defects without bad PR?
- jacquesm 9y ago> Out of curiosity, why "to select customers" only? To justify extreme price differences so the 'select customers' can credibly claim this expensive stuff gives them an edge their competitors will not be able to easily match. In an arms race arms that are supply constrained will fetch premium prices.
- StillBored 9y agoBut to the parent point, all the more reason to open it up, and charge an even higher premium when other people come online and start a bidding war.
- DaiPlusPlus 9y agoI wonder if the hardware at that scale isn't exactly stable - so to become a "select customer" comes with signing a gag-agreement not to publicly disclose stability problems - and I guess also requires the customer have suitably trained staff who can deal with any expected or unexpected problems - and software engineers who can write software that will fully utilise the processor's capabilities - much like how Sony took some PR flak for the PS3's Cell processor being difficult to program for given its atypical design.
- fauigerzigerk 9y agoI can't even read this article properly. The site uses 130% CPU, scrolling hardly works at all, it keeps making network requests like crazy and it even crashed my Chrome tab. And for what reason? I do understand the dilemma that ad funded sites are in. I'm not using an ad blocker. But I simply don't get what purpose this sort of abusive website design is supposed to have. I will never visit Anandtech again. I've seen it many times. It's never long after advertising gets irrational that content quality suffers as well and the entire site goes down the drain.
- BozeWolf 9y agoYou probably need a faster CPU ;-) No problem with cpu usage here though, but I do have uBlock origin installed. AnandTech can be a nice site to visit every now and then!
- nedsma 9y agoSame here. uBlock does the trick.
- fauigerzigerk 9y agoSo what Anandtech managed to do in this case is drive away one reader who doesn't use an ad blocker and attract two users who do. Where will this end? I believe it will end in all content moving to closed technology platforms that lock out ad blockers, i.e apps. The reason why I have posted a meta comment, which is always a questionable thing to do, is that there may be people here on Hacker News who can fix this absurd logic that is killing the open web.
- zigzigzag 9y agoI saw the same thing. I had to kill the entire Chrome process. There's something being loaded, probably via ads, that totally wrecks the entire Chrome process group not just the renderer, which is impressive.
- matt4077 9y agoI usually roll my eyes at these complaints, but in this case it's really quite something. I just let the page sit unused for 5min and it downloaded 165MB. Safari has much better defaults when it comes to such behaviour by ad networks: It blocks 165 requests and shows no further activity after loading 5MB: "Blocked a frame with origin "http://www.anandtech.com" http://www.anandtech.com" from accessing a frame with origin "http://pixel.mathtag.com" http://pixel.mathtag.com". Protocols, domains, and ports must match."
- drudru11 9y agoI am still getting a Ryzen build
- RichardHeart 9y agoI'm sick of having 0 to 1 choice in so many things. If a monopoly is bad, then what's the next worst number of companies? Two. Isn't the governments job to enhance the "free" market by forcing competition through forcing open on-boarding, or IP sharing, or breaking up, or really anything effective to lubricate the wheels of capitalism.
- Keyframe 9y agoFor years now we had a choice of 1. It's moving, again. It's also a high entry bar.
- RichardHeart 9y agoHere's some ways I can think of that would allow competition without splitting the company up. Forced Ip sharing, incentivised loans to fund new competitors, ip sunsetting, fab sharing, etc, etc. Everyone dislikes government intervention in business, yet something must be done, so I'd like to see the current evil vs the calculated result of the least evil of the government interventions, and vote for one. If monopolies are illegal, and this is a monopoly...
- DaiPlusPlus 9y agoI don't see how it's a monopoly: AMD's x64 chips are competent, and given that Windows now fully supports ARM it means that for an OEM working on a greenfield project they're free to explore non-Intel options entirely. Intel has a monopoly in microprocessors today the same way that Microsoft Windows is an OS monopoly today: it sort-of is, but it isn't holding anyone back either.
- Retric 9y agoMonopoly does not mean 100% market share. It means they control the market and 95% is generally plenty to hit that point because of economy of scale generally prevents anyone else from staying competitive.
- Keyframe 9y agoThat's good. Finally, we're moving with processors forward - probably thanks to AMD, again. My only hope is for them (both, either) to make thunderbolt standard feature on motherboards or ditch it completely.
- nicktelford 9y agoWell, Intel recently (last week?) announced that Thunderbolt 3 would be licensed for free, and that they intend to integrate it (a controller I assume) in to their future CPUs. I presume that this free licensing extends to AMD and vendors of the AMD platform, which could entice them to adopt it too.
- gbrown_ 9y agoIntel certainly seem to have come around to opening Thunderbolt up to wider adoption. https://newsroom.intel.com/editorials/envision-world-thunderbolt-3-everywhere/ https://newsroom.intel.com/editorials/envision-world-thunder...
- redtuesday 9y agoIt seems Skylake X will not be soldered [0] unlike previous HEDT CPU's from Intel. AMD even solders their normal consumer CPU Ryzen. How much will Intel save with this? 2 to 4 dollars per CPU? I'm also curious what that means for the thermals. Intels 4 core parts have much better thermals when delided to change the bad TIM. [0] https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/intel_s_skylake-x_and_kaby_lake-x_cpus_will_not_be_soldered/1 https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/intel_s_skyla...
- grindal 9y agoI never understand why this type of behaviors, consumer products and other products. Millions of resources wasted. Millions of futile ideas. I think is time to change, time to real ideas. One virus, one bacteria or one plant make more with less. Certainly I'll never throw one of those. The angular stone problem. The best, the machine 1999 but for how many time? What works in every time? It is nothing another form of sell.
- mrmondo 9y agoVery glad to to see the clock speed didn't take a drop for the extra cores however still no ECC is disappointing to say the least.
- nazri1 9y ago90s: CPU Hertz 2000s: RAM Sizes 201xs: CPU Cores?
- jacquesm 9y agoYes, that's roughly correct. Even so, a CPU that would have much better single threaded performance would outsell one that has much lower single threaded performance but more cores in the consumer market. In the server market it is the opposite.
- eecc 9y agoSo, let's give credit when credit is due and call this the Intel Ryzen CPU :D
- faragon 9y agoMy next home CPU will be an AMD Ryzen.
- theandrewbailey 9y agoI've been running a 1800X for about a month. Great chip, lousy RAM support (hoping that BIOS announcement from last week turns out good). I guess since I'm used to new high end GPUs being scarce for months after launch, I wasn't expecting availability to be so good. Additionally, I didn't expect the small aftermarket AM4 cooling selection.
- AlphaSite 9y agoThe brackets are there, you just need to ask.
- theandrewbailey 9y agoBefore buying one of those fancy Coolermasters, I asked their website/store, and the AM4 bracket was out of stock. I ended up buying a Thermaltake, and if I change it, it will probably be watercooled.
- seanp2k2 9y agoYeah, I went with the h110i AIO since during pre-order they were the only confirmed by the manufacturer supported cooling solution in stock. Noctua also has AM4 versions of 3 of their coolers: http://noctua.at/en/noctua-presents-three-special-edition-am4-cpu-coolers-for-amd-ryzen http://noctua.at/en/noctua-presents-three-special-edition-am... (again, sold out when I pre-ordered, the D15 is otherwise a great cooler). The Crosshairs VI Hero also has brackets for AM3, so with that specific board you have many options for cooling. It also seemed like the board with the most support, so that's what I went with and it's been OK (mostly issues around RAM speed support which is actively improving -- currently at 3200mhz for 32GB (4x8)). RAM speed makes a big performance difference for Ryzen especially, but it's decent enough now that I'm comfortable recommending it. Get RAM from the QVL list and you're good to go.
- known 9y agoWhy not name it as i18
- abalashov 9y agoPerfect for running modern JavaScript frameworks! /s
- gpderetta 9y agoIsn't JS still mostly single threaded?
- abrookewood 9y agoHence the 'end sarcasm' tag: /s
- dboreham 9y agoBut this one goes to....9..
- deafcalculus 9y agoIt's high time Intel started adding more cores to consumer CPUs rather than spending half the silicon area on a crappy integrated GPU. It's only thanks to Ryzen that this is happening.
- bischofs 9y agoI agree, laptops have moved to terrible intel GPUS and are much worse for it because intel conned oems into thinking it was a decent GPU. They brand them as "multimedia" which just means it can stream video up to its screen resolution at 110C
- terminalcommand 9y agoIMHO Intel GPU's are not that bad. If you're not gaming they handle most tasks such as image editing with Photoshop and driving multiple screens at high resolutions. And frankly, that's all a consumer really needs. Sure, an external dedicated GPU is nice to have, but being able to buy a decent processor (ie. Pentium G4560) with an integrated GPU for 50 dollars is really awesome, if you're on a tight budget. PS: I'm writing this on a laptop that has the very first Intel HD Graphics (1st gen i7). I don't have any problem with it, except gaming and a two monitor limit.
- dman 9y agoThe quality of their opengl drivers has been really lacking.
- slizard 9y agoLooks like they think they're still winning regardless of the price and that simply bumping core count to be the kings and bringing the price back to the Haswell-EP level high (rather than Broadwell-EP crazy) will be enough. What also shows that they seem to be confident is that they're further segmenting the market based on the PCIE lane count to push everyone wanting >32 lanes into the >$1k regime. All in all, the cool thing is not the i9s and high core counts which you could get even before by plugging a Xeon chip into a consumer X99 mobo (though you'd have to pay some $$$), but the new cache hierarchy which will give serious improvements in well-implemented, cache friendly codes!
- slizard 9y ago...and of course AVX-512 for the lucky ones that can get significant benefit from such a wide SIMD (also considering the very likely significant clock limit for AVX instruction streams).
- marmaduke 9y agoeven chips with AVX2 on all cores slow down when it's fully used. The Xeon Phi has a pretty low clock, 1.3 ghz iirc. Still, it gets you GPU style performance on vector workloads without needing separate hardware and software stack.
- valarauca1 9y agoeven chips with AVX2 on all cores slow down when it's fully used Not really. Xeon Phi's clock low because the die is massive. The downclocking for AVX started with Knights Landing. My Boardwell-EP Xeon stays at 3.0Ghz even when I (ab)use AVX2.
- AbacusAvenger 9y agoI tried AVX512 on a Xeon (non-Phi) part recently and it was extremely underwhelming. The workload (OpenMP-parallelized n-body) was actually slower with AVX512. Since it was under virtualization and I didn't have access to the bare metal hardware or to performance counters, I have no way of knowing why, but I'm almost certain it was because it lost all-cores Turbo and downclocked aggressively. It had previously scaled almost linearly going from SSE to AVX/AVX2, but it regressed with AVX512.
- kruhft 9y agoGood. Bring on more cores. I could use them.
- myrandomcomment 9y agoIntel getting kicked by AMD ever few years is good for the market and the consumer. I am still planning on getting an AMD system to show my support for their efforts. I have been holding off for one with a gasp integrated GPU as I will be using the system as a media center. Right now I have the high end Intel compute stick. The limited RAM is a huge draw back. Oh, if it plays Civ6 well, that's a huge bonus.
- Synaesthesia 9y agoCompared to the atom on your compute stick anything will be grand!
- Sanddancer 9y agoThe high end compute stick has a core m5, not an atom. http://ark.intel.com/products/91979/Intel-Compute-Stick-STK2mv64CC http://ark.intel.com/products/91979/Intel-Compute-Stick-STK2...
- myrandomcomment 9y agoThe compute stick I was referring to is the BOXSTK2m3W64CC which has a Intel Core m3-6Y30 processor. The RAM is really the issue, 4GB only. I run Kodi on it 99% of the time. If I exit out it is to run Firefox to watch / listen to something that Kodi does not support (XMRadio). Every once in awhile I check and I am hitting swap and Kodi is complaining.
- StillBored 9y agoReally intel? I don't want 10+ cores just to get reasonable PCIe connectivity. This is just another strike against these parts (after the lack of ECC). I guess intel is trying really hard to protect their server parts, but they continue to gimp the high end desktop parts (as if the removal of multisocket isn't enough). I would really like to understand why intel tries so hard to not make a desktop part for people willing to spend a little more to get something that isn't basically an i5 (limited memory channels, limited PCIe, smaller caches, etc).
- wmf 9y agoI'm sure they'll have a Xeon Silver for you soon.
- old-gregg 9y agoDo you mind me asking what you'd be using those PCIe lanes for? Their 8c part is good for a couple of NVMe drives and a video card, that's quire reasonable. The only use for 44+ lanes I have in mind is a mining rig but that's probably beyond reasonable and quite niche. No?
- m-j-fox 9y agoHigh-Cost Computing?
- vbezhenar 9y agoWell, Intel still didn't show anything better than Ryzen 8 core. Their processors have higher costs and require fancy motherboards which I don't even sure I can buy in my city.
- old-gregg 9y agoI am actually (sadly) won't be buying Ryzen because of this announcement. Based on Ryzen/Skylake benchmarks, looks like i7-7820X will be a better deal: 15-20% performance advantage (because of better IPC + faster clock) for only $100 extra. I honestly do not know how to consume more than 28 PCI lanes... Also, Ryzen seems to struggle on Linux vs Intel a bit. I have seen people complaining about it's unwillingness to use the Turbo frequency and its unixbench numbers are unimpressive, particularly execl throughput.
- fcanesin 9y agoMeh, I bought a Ryzen 5 1600 for $199 and a ASUS B350M for $29 at micro center, paired that with 16 GB Crucial ECC DDR4 2400 for $149 (working on ubuntu 16.04, confirmed and stress tested)... so for $377 I have 12 threads @3.9GHz with ECC, that can go up to 64GB. Thanks Intel, but no.
- pixel_fcker 9y agoThat's... completely irrelevant to the sort of people who might be interested in this chip. That's like saying, "I've got a double cheeseburger with curly fries for $1.99. Thanks Intel, but no."
- fcanesin 9y agoIt is extremely relevant. The feature set and performance target overlap, if you know how to read you will notice that anandtech includes Core i7-7800X (a 6 core 12 thread CPU) on the new processors table and has a final comparison against Ryzen 7 1800X, which is the same chip as Ryzen 5 1600 (with 2 cores disabled).
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- peter303 9y agoPlease put in nextgen Macbook to be announced in June. Jump to the head of the line Apple. Remember your roots.
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