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It completely depends if you are white or not. If you are white, and speak politely, the agent will care deeply about your concerns, including potential firing

It completely depends if you are white or not. If you are white, and speak politely, the agent will care deeply about your concerns, including potential firing as an example. If you are not white, and especially if you appear black, Latino or Arab, then your comment will definitely hold true.

skyrw 9y ago
You are absolutely the worst kind of person.
- deleted 9y ago
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- JadeNB 9y ago
  > You are absolutely the worst kind of person. What? I'm not sure I believe the grandparent's post, and it would be nice if it were sourced or clarified as opinion rather than stated as fact (as briandear (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14406689 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14406689) and Banthum (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14407293 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14407293) urged), but your reaction seems grossly hostile and unconstructive.
- dang 9y ago
  We've banned this account. No one is allowed to post like this here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html All: upvoting such blatant violations of the site guidelines also causes accounts to lose voting privileges on HN.
briandear 9y ago
[citation needed]
TallGuyShort 9y ago
Recently delayed by the TSA to the point of missing my turn to board. Was subjected to additional searching. Upon finding nothing, I discovered the extra searching was what they do when you fail the hand swab test. I had not had the test administered. So they administered the test. I passed. They then searched my things again and I was questioned regarding the quantity of business cards I was carrying. Oh also I'm white.
- schoen 9y ago
  TSA is not the same agency as CBP. They don't receive the same training, encounter travelers in the same situations, enforce the same laws, or execute the same authority.
  - TallGuyShort 9y ago
    I've had similar experiences with CBP too. It's still a pretty silly unqualified comment. They tend to be on power trips any chance they get, brown or black or white.
    - schoen 9y ago
      I didn't mean to comment on the use of racial profiling; I've just noticed that there's a lot of confusion about the difference between TSA and CBP.
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- jakelazaroff 9y ago
  Pretty sure parent was just saying that it's way more likely to happen to you if you're not white, not that 100% of white people will pass through unaccosted.
  - TallGuyShort 9y ago
    Well given that parent used phrases like "entirely depends" and "definitely", I didn't get that at all. And given my own experience of being consistently delayed in most locations and being white, I think there are clearly more factors. And if true, those factors affect more people and amplify the effect of racially motivated factors.
Banthum 9y ago
Wow, quite an accusation! Is there any actual data source on this, or is it just a narrative you prefer?
- throwaway26402 9y ago
  Are... are you seriously doubting the racial profiling that happens at the hands of border agents? I'm genuinely curious. Do you know literally nothing about America's history or the current political climate? I'll even help, since apparently Silicon Valley hasn't invented a $400 way to enter text into a search bar: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=US+border+patrol+racial+profiling http://lmgtfy.com/?q=US+border+patrol+racial+profiling
- jakelazaroff 9y ago
  Two seconds of Googling: https://www.aclu.org/blog/speakeasy/dangerous-precedent-why-allow-racial-profiling-or-near-border https://www.aclu.org/blog/speakeasy/dangerous-precedent-why-...
jerosystems 9y ago
Careful, you're showing everyone you're a racist asshole.
- Dylan16807 9y ago
  By calling the border police racist?

skyrw 9y ago

You are absolutely the worst kind of person.

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JadeNB 9y ago
> You are absolutely the worst kind of person. What? I'm not sure I believe the grandparent's post, and it would be nice if it were sourced or clarified as opinion rather than stated as fact (as briandear (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14406689 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14406689) and Banthum (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14407293 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14407293) urged), but your reaction seems grossly hostile and unconstructive.
dang 9y ago
We've banned this account. No one is allowed to post like this here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html All: upvoting such blatant violations of the site guidelines also causes accounts to lose voting privileges on HN.

briandear 9y ago

[citation needed]

TallGuyShort 9y ago

Recently delayed by the TSA to the point of missing my turn to board. Was subjected to additional searching. Upon finding nothing, I discovered the extra searching was what they do when you fail the hand swab test. I had not had the test administered. So they administered the test. I passed. They then searched my things again and I was questioned regarding the quantity of business cards I was carrying. Oh also I'm white.

schoen 9y ago
TSA is not the same agency as CBP. They don't receive the same training, encounter travelers in the same situations, enforce the same laws, or execute the same authority.
- TallGuyShort 9y ago
  I've had similar experiences with CBP too. It's still a pretty silly unqualified comment. They tend to be on power trips any chance they get, brown or black or white.
  - schoen 9y ago
    I didn't mean to comment on the use of racial profiling; I've just noticed that there's a lot of confusion about the difference between TSA and CBP.
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jakelazaroff 9y ago
Pretty sure parent was just saying that it's way more likely to happen to you if you're not white, not that 100% of white people will pass through unaccosted.
- TallGuyShort 9y ago
  Well given that parent used phrases like "entirely depends" and "definitely", I didn't get that at all. And given my own experience of being consistently delayed in most locations and being white, I think there are clearly more factors. And if true, those factors affect more people and amplify the effect of racially motivated factors.

Banthum 9y ago

Wow, quite an accusation! Is there any actual data source on this, or is it just a narrative you prefer?

throwaway26402 9y ago
Are... are you seriously doubting the racial profiling that happens at the hands of border agents? I'm genuinely curious. Do you know literally nothing about America's history or the current political climate? I'll even help, since apparently Silicon Valley hasn't invented a $400 way to enter text into a search bar: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=US+border+patrol+racial+profiling http://lmgtfy.com/?q=US+border+patrol+racial+profiling
jakelazaroff 9y ago
Two seconds of Googling: https://www.aclu.org/blog/speakeasy/dangerous-precedent-why-allow-racial-profiling-or-near-border https://www.aclu.org/blog/speakeasy/dangerous-precedent-why-...

jerosystems 9y ago

Careful, you're showing everyone you're a racist asshole.

Dylan16807 9y ago
By calling the border police racist?