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10X Programmer: I've paid a high price to achieve this (PHOTO)

11 points by clubminsk 9y ago

subroutine 9y ago
I don't understand how a software company can have such a terrible website. Social media icons cover the first few words along the left margin, making the article unreadable.
- clubminsk 9y ago
  Which device do you have? I do not face the same problem...
  - subroutine 9y ago
    Chrome http://i.imgur.com/wxkck1u.png http://i.imgur.com/wxkck1u.png
    - emeraldd 9y ago
      It's screen width ... more than likely the developer has a wider screen/window and they didn't check it on lower resolutions.
- fil_a_del_fee_a 9y ago
  I had the same issue.
  - clubminsk 9y ago
    It seems they have fixed this
- dentemple 9y ago
  I'm on Chrome and definitely having the same issue. Pretty ironic that an article decrying the act of being a "10x Programmer" had such a sloppy developer working on the front end.
  - subroutine 9y ago
    Right. I mean, if the website was simply letting you know about their talented Sec / DevOps team (something like https://latacora.com https://latacora.com), sure nbd. A website like that tells me they're either (1) so talented fuck a website! I 10x'd this webpage in 19.3 seconds as a courtesy or (2) we are also bad at other things!. I don't know anything about Belitsoft, other than they have a blog written by two "Customer Success Managers" and 3 other dudes, and none of them use Chrome.
d33 9y ago
> At the end of that phase, I decided I could not survive such boredom. > My solution was to invent a mini-query language, which could express the key features of each query in a YAML file. Thus, I had the excitement of developing a new expressive language, which was a genuine intellectual challenge as opposed to tedious cut-and-paste mechanics. The end result was much more pleasing to myself. ...and probably much more difficult to maintain.
- sp332 9y ago
  When your goal is combating boredom, that could be a feature.
nsxwolf 9y ago
Wow, how did these people get 10X certified? That's what I want to know. Oh, I see. It's a self-applied label.
- deleted 9y ago
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onion2k 9y ago
Worked an average of 74 hours per week with no vacations; Why would someone who's 10* better than their peers need to work double the hours?
- amelius 9y ago
  Perhaps he just likes his job?
  - zzalpha 9y ago
    You miss the point. "10x" doesn't mean working 2-3x longer than everyone else. If that's necessary, bad news, you're not a 10x coder. You're just an above average workaholic.
  - onion2k 9y ago
    Of course, and hopefully he does. Working double the hours in a job you don't like would be awful. I think most of us would accomplish 3 or 4 times more than we do given an additional 30+ hours of peace and quiet without distractions or external commitments, so I'm really asking if he's actually accomplishing more than any normal 1X developer would in his circumstances. I strongly suspect he's very fortunate to have a job and a family who support his choice to spend large amounts of time doing what he wants to do.
- nsxwolf 9y ago
  Some programmers might code 10x faster, but lack the experience and wisdom to know they shouldn't be writing a piece of code at all. If your metric is lines of code, then the 10x programmer looks really impressive. They might truly be able to reinvent some wheel 10x faster than someone else. By another metric, someone with the experience and wisdom to solve the problem by integrating existing solutions and writing less code may hypothetically complete a task 10x faster than the former 10x programmer - effectively becoming a 100x programmer in comparison. But it's very likely some managers won't recognize what the "100x" programmer has accomplished. He just made the task look "easy", and now he's going to have to fill his time with more tasks, and at review time might look mediocre in comparison to the fast but naive 10x programmer.
temp1245 9y ago
> "Worked an average of 74 hours per week with no vacations" So.. am I supposed to envy this or what?
throwaway2016a 9y ago
This is just an advertisement for a consulting firm...
- clubminsk 9y ago
  No. Those people are not working there
  - throwaway2016a 9y ago
    You're right, the site went down before I could look at the team page but now that I do it seems those people aren't on it. My apologies. Although, they don't need to in order for it to be an ad. But to be fair, content marketing is a better term. And a good piece of marketing at that. It tricked me (intentionally or not) into thinking those people worked there and if I was a client that might get me to buy.
kyleblarson 9y ago
Apparently while '10x'ing' for 74 hours a week there was no time to develop some modesty.
trackone 9y ago
This doesn't seem to be a real Q and A from the people in the article. A comment from Victor Volkman (going by username at least) at the end of the article (one of the people "interviewed" in the article): "Although I'm flattered to have my comments included in this article. I must point out it was mined from several different Quora articles about unrelated topics. At no point was I contacted as to whether I wanted to participate in this article. I would have appreciated the courtesy of a "heads up". I'm not hard to find as they posted at least three of my social media contact links."
- detaro 9y ago
  And an incredibly tone-deaf response by the author of the article... apparently he "had to" copy without asking because "10x devs are introverts".
  - squeaky-clean 9y ago
    Not sure why you're being downvoted, maybe someone thinks you are calling devs introverts? The author's response is > Yes. It's true. Unfortunately, it's almost impossible to share information about 10x programmers another way.... They are introverts and do not like to share their experience (in spite of fact that a lot of people want to here them). Which I also think is pretty rude. There's a difference between an introvert and a mind reader. If you don't even ask someone, that's not introversion.
    - LyndsySimon 9y ago
      Not to mention that introversion isn't a flaw or even a limitation of behavior, but a matter of whether interpersonal communication is taxing or energizing to an individual.
- nsxwolf 9y ago
  Is this a common writing technique? It reminds me of those fake interviews on radio stations with pre-recorded answers 100 DJs get to use to pretend they got to talk to Tom Cruise.

11 points by clubminsk 9y ago

I don't understand how a software company can have such a terrible website. Social media icons cover the first few words along the left margin, making the article unreadable.

clubminsk 9y ago
Which device do you have? I do not face the same problem...
- subroutine 9y ago
  Chrome http://i.imgur.com/wxkck1u.png http://i.imgur.com/wxkck1u.png
  - emeraldd 9y ago
    It's screen width ... more than likely the developer has a wider screen/window and they didn't check it on lower resolutions.
fil_a_del_fee_a 9y ago
I had the same issue.
- clubminsk 9y ago
  It seems they have fixed this
dentemple 9y ago
I'm on Chrome and definitely having the same issue. Pretty ironic that an article decrying the act of being a "10x Programmer" had such a sloppy developer working on the front end.
- subroutine 9y ago
  Right. I mean, if the website was simply letting you know about their talented Sec / DevOps team (something like https://latacora.com https://latacora.com), sure nbd. A website like that tells me they're either (1) so talented fuck a website! I 10x'd this webpage in 19.3 seconds as a courtesy or (2) we are also bad at other things!. I don't know anything about Belitsoft, other than they have a blog written by two "Customer Success Managers" and 3 other dudes, and none of them use Chrome.

d33 9y ago

> At the end of that phase, I decided I could not survive such boredom. > My solution was to invent a mini-query language, which could express the key features of each query in a YAML file. Thus, I had the excitement of developing a new expressive language, which was a genuine intellectual challenge as opposed to tedious cut-and-paste mechanics. The end result was much more pleasing to myself. ...and probably much more difficult to maintain.

sp332 9y ago
When your goal is combating boredom, that could be a feature.

nsxwolf 9y ago

Wow, how did these people get 10X certified? That's what I want to know. Oh, I see. It's a self-applied label.

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onion2k 9y ago

Worked an average of 74 hours per week with no vacations; Why would someone who's 10* better than their peers need to work double the hours?

amelius 9y ago
Perhaps he just likes his job?
- zzalpha 9y ago
  You miss the point. "10x" doesn't mean working 2-3x longer than everyone else. If that's necessary, bad news, you're not a 10x coder. You're just an above average workaholic.
- onion2k 9y ago
  Of course, and hopefully he does. Working double the hours in a job you don't like would be awful. I think most of us would accomplish 3 or 4 times more than we do given an additional 30+ hours of peace and quiet without distractions or external commitments, so I'm really asking if he's actually accomplishing more than any normal 1X developer would in his circumstances. I strongly suspect he's very fortunate to have a job and a family who support his choice to spend large amounts of time doing what he wants to do.
nsxwolf 9y ago
Some programmers might code 10x faster, but lack the experience and wisdom to know they shouldn't be writing a piece of code at all. If your metric is lines of code, then the 10x programmer looks really impressive. They might truly be able to reinvent some wheel 10x faster than someone else. By another metric, someone with the experience and wisdom to solve the problem by integrating existing solutions and writing less code may hypothetically complete a task 10x faster than the former 10x programmer - effectively becoming a 100x programmer in comparison. But it's very likely some managers won't recognize what the "100x" programmer has accomplished. He just made the task look "easy", and now he's going to have to fill his time with more tasks, and at review time might look mediocre in comparison to the fast but naive 10x programmer.

temp1245 9y ago

> "Worked an average of 74 hours per week with no vacations" So.. am I supposed to envy this or what?

throwaway2016a 9y ago

This is just an advertisement for a consulting firm...

clubminsk 9y ago
No. Those people are not working there
- throwaway2016a 9y ago
  You're right, the site went down before I could look at the team page but now that I do it seems those people aren't on it. My apologies. Although, they don't need to in order for it to be an ad. But to be fair, content marketing is a better term. And a good piece of marketing at that. It tricked me (intentionally or not) into thinking those people worked there and if I was a client that might get me to buy.

kyleblarson 9y ago

Apparently while '10x'ing' for 74 hours a week there was no time to develop some modesty.

trackone 9y ago

This doesn't seem to be a real Q and A from the people in the article. A comment from Victor Volkman (going by username at least) at the end of the article (one of the people "interviewed" in the article): "Although I'm flattered to have my comments included in this article. I must point out it was mined from several different Quora articles about unrelated topics. At no point was I contacted as to whether I wanted to participate in this article. I would have appreciated the courtesy of a "heads up". I'm not hard to find as they posted at least three of my social media contact links."

detaro 9y ago
And an incredibly tone-deaf response by the author of the article... apparently he "had to" copy without asking because "10x devs are introverts".
- squeaky-clean 9y ago
  Not sure why you're being downvoted, maybe someone thinks you are calling devs introverts? The author's response is > Yes. It's true. Unfortunately, it's almost impossible to share information about 10x programmers another way.... They are introverts and do not like to share their experience (in spite of fact that a lot of people want to here them). Which I also think is pretty rude. There's a difference between an introvert and a mind reader. If you don't even ask someone, that's not introversion.
  - LyndsySimon 9y ago
    Not to mention that introversion isn't a flaw or even a limitation of behavior, but a matter of whether interpersonal communication is taxing or energizing to an individual.
nsxwolf 9y ago
Is this a common writing technique? It reminds me of those fake interviews on radio stations with pre-recorded answers 100 DJs get to use to pretend they got to talk to Tom Cruise.