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For other reasons, a large % of trucking should be de-subsidized and replaced with rail http://cityobservatory.org/the-real-welfare-cadillacs-have-18-wheels/ ht
by mlinksva 9y ago
For other reasons, a large % of trucking should be de-subsidized and replaced with rail http://cityobservatory.org/the-real-welfare-cadillacs-have-18-wheels/ http://cityobservatory.org/the-real-welfare-cadillacs-have-1...
What are working conditions of truckers relative to railroad workers?
- oppositelock 9y agoHow is trucking subsidized?
- muninn_ 9y agoHighway funding for one. Instead of improving highway infrastructure with tax money, improve rail lines.
- jacobolus 9y agoIndeed. Trucks cause several orders of magnitude more road wear than cars, because road wear scales like weight per wheel to the fourth power (this might not always be the perfect model http://www.nvfnorden.org/lisalib/getfile.aspx?itemid=261 http://www.nvfnorden.org/lisalib/getfile.aspx?itemid=261 but even so the general idea holds), and trucks weigh a whole lot. If trucks had to pay their fair share of road maintenance, shipping by truck would probably be noticeably more expensive.
- trothamel 9y agoFederal highway funding appears to be mostly funded by gas taxes on highway users. It costs $44B, and $39B is funded by gas tax revenue. While $5B is still a lot of money, it's smaller than the $8B that funds mass transit.
- ashark 9y agoTrucks do disproportionately more damage do the roads than they pay in taxes for fuel, though. You're subsidizing trucking every time you fuel up your passenger vehicle.
- ProfessorLayton 9y agoThis subsidy is going to take an interesting turn with vehicle electrification. Right now the lower the MPG, the more taxes you pay. Moving to a tax per miles driven is going to punish those that have the most efficient vehicles in a more upfront manner than it is today (Hidden in gasoline prices).
- hansthehorse 9y agoThis is the reason, at the federal level, diesel fuel is taxed more than gasoline. Diesel = 24.4c/gal and Gas = 18.4c/gal. The difference isn't enough to compensate for the increased wear but there is a difference.
- Voyage_wanderer 9y agoAre you sure? Truck burns 6 miles/ gallon. New EPA regulations in 21 century actually increased fuel consumptions since about 20% of engine's power goes to cleaning the air. Modern car use 30+Miles/gallon.
- ashark 9y agoRoad wear isn't linear with weight. Estimates I've seen put a heavy 18-wheeler at the equivalent of more than 9,000 cars traveling over the same stretch of road. Way, way more than 5x the damage (6mpg vs 30mpg).
- ams6110 9y agoSince the advent of containers, a huge amount of freight is shipped by rail, especially from coastal ports to inland hubs. Trucks are used for shipments to more local warehouses or retail/factory locations that don't have rail access. And no, it's not feasible to build a rail spur to every warehouse or Wal-mart.
- dredmorbius 9y agoInterestingly, previously, you did see spur lines to many facilities which today are served by truck. Low-speed (15 - 30 mph) tracked autonomous vehicles for local ("last 10 - 20 mile") delivery might very much make sense. It's a lot easier to focus on things like traffic control and hazard detection (including people on tracks) when your wheels literally hold you to the road.
- posguy 9y agoShort lines & spurs have nearly all been spun off into small, local railroad companies as BNSF, UP & CNX don't want to deal with the expensive, time consuming short lines. The major rail companies would much rather move mile long trains hundreds of miles on well maintained track, and let the short lines fend for themselves, barely scraping by, running trains at a few miles an hour (as they can't afford proper track maintenance.
- dredmorbius 9y agoMany of them started as local-only, "short-line" railroads in the first place.