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It'd be nice if companies would stop wasting their time trying to enforce copyright.

by beedogs 9y ago

nitemice 9y ago
You wouldn't say that if it was your copyright they were enforcing.
- PrimHelios 9y ago
  Except I would. I just use copyright to prove I made something. Everything I do is released under CC BY-SA or (for my code) Expat/MIT licensing. Things should open, information deserves to be free, especially when people are no longer making money from the content.
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  - nitemice 9y ago
    I bet you still wouldn't be happy if someone violated CC BY-SA or Expat/MIT licensing, and didn't even attribute to you. Thus, copyright still serves a purpose to you, and even for the minimal set of actions you want, it needs to be enforceable. I agree that copyright law, as it currently stands is usually mostly about screwing the little guy, in favour of some big corporation in perpetuity, but that's a separate argument to enforcement which should apply equally to all works, including yours.
    - PrimHelios 9y ago
      >I bet you still wouldn't be happy if someone violated CC BY-SA or Expat/MIT licensing, and didn't even attribute to you. Thus, copyright still serves a purpose to you, and even for the minimal set of actions you want, it needs to be enforceable. Happy? No. Unhappy enough to pursue legal action? Hell no. >I agree that copyright law, as it currently stands is usually mostly about screwing the little guy, in favour of some big corporation in perpetuity, but that's a separate argument to enforcement which should apply equally to all works, including yours. True. I'm not arguing completely against copyright law, I just wouldn't sue someone for violating my license =P
      - tajen 9y ago
        In XXth century, Communism was about nationalizing companies. In XXIst century, Communism will be about only recognizing a copyright duration of 10 years, after which the content is free to copy. And compiled content must be open-source. It's the nationalization of content. If explained this way, I would be in favour of that kind of communism, and there's hope that it would participate to sharing more knowledge, be safer and advancing humanity faster. But given all countries are constrained by the WTO bindings, it would take a rogue nation like Cuba or China to implement that.
        chii 9y ago
        China doesn't enforce copyright because it's a benefit to them right now. you bet your bottom dollar they will if and when it becomes a liability (e.g., they start to invent things that are novel, but is easily copied).
        eeZah7Ux 9y ago
        > nationalization of content Making content available to the whole humanity is completely different from "nationalization".
        PrimHelios 9y ago
        You clearly don't know what communism is.
        dragonwriter 9y ago
        "Communism" may be a distracting term, but I'm just going to throw this out for a fictional reference along the same general lines: http://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Infosocialism http://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Infosocialism

It'd be nice if companies would stop wasting their time trying to enforce copyright.

nitemice 9y ago

You wouldn't say that if it was your copyright they were enforcing.

PrimHelios 9y ago
Except I would. I just use copyright to prove I made something. Everything I do is released under CC BY-SA or (for my code) Expat/MIT licensing. Things should open, information deserves to be free, especially when people are no longer making money from the content.
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- nitemice 9y ago
  I bet you still wouldn't be happy if someone violated CC BY-SA or Expat/MIT licensing, and didn't even attribute to you. Thus, copyright still serves a purpose to you, and even for the minimal set of actions you want, it needs to be enforceable. I agree that copyright law, as it currently stands is usually mostly about screwing the little guy, in favour of some big corporation in perpetuity, but that's a separate argument to enforcement which should apply equally to all works, including yours.
  - PrimHelios 9y ago
    >I bet you still wouldn't be happy if someone violated CC BY-SA or Expat/MIT licensing, and didn't even attribute to you. Thus, copyright still serves a purpose to you, and even for the minimal set of actions you want, it needs to be enforceable. Happy? No. Unhappy enough to pursue legal action? Hell no. >I agree that copyright law, as it currently stands is usually mostly about screwing the little guy, in favour of some big corporation in perpetuity, but that's a separate argument to enforcement which should apply equally to all works, including yours. True. I'm not arguing completely against copyright law, I just wouldn't sue someone for violating my license =P
    - tajen 9y ago
      In XXth century, Communism was about nationalizing companies. In XXIst century, Communism will be about only recognizing a copyright duration of 10 years, after which the content is free to copy. And compiled content must be open-source. It's the nationalization of content. If explained this way, I would be in favour of that kind of communism, and there's hope that it would participate to sharing more knowledge, be safer and advancing humanity faster. But given all countries are constrained by the WTO bindings, it would take a rogue nation like Cuba or China to implement that.
      - chii 9y ago
        China doesn't enforce copyright because it's a benefit to them right now. you bet your bottom dollar they will if and when it becomes a liability (e.g., they start to invent things that are novel, but is easily copied).
      - eeZah7Ux 9y ago
        > nationalization of content Making content available to the whole humanity is completely different from "nationalization".
      - PrimHelios 9y ago
        You clearly don't know what communism is.
      - dragonwriter 9y ago
        "Communism" may be a distracting term, but I'm just going to throw this out for a fictional reference along the same general lines: http://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Infosocialism http://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Infosocialism