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The Daily Mail providing better information than the BBC, I never would've guess it.
by swampthinker 9y ago
The Daily Mail providing better information than the BBC, I never would've guess it.
- falsedan 9y agoBBC news quality has an extremely sharp cut-off for anything outside of the M25
- crdoconnor 9y agoThese days it's basically just a British RT for everything inside the M25 too: http://i.imgur.com/puUAKrc.jpg http://i.imgur.com/puUAKrc.jpg
- kristianc 9y agoMuch as I detest its politics, the Mail is the most visited English-language newspaper site in the world, to be fair.
- algesten 9y agoYes, and gangnam style is the most viewed youtube clip ever. Daily mail is not bad because of politics but because it's exploitative, sensationalist, devoid of empathy and does absolutely _anything_ to get a click/view/reader. It stands for nothing, there are no standards, nothing is too low and no story too sensitive to bulldoze.
- xyzzy_plugh 9y agoAre you suggesting that Gangnam style is anything but catchy, entertaining, and brilliant satire? I don't think these two things are similar in the way I suspect you believe, other than that they are popular.
- algesten 9y agoThe point I was making was that popularity does not equal quality. This doesn't mean I think gangnam style is particularly bad, but is it the best? I think very little can be gaged from the amount of views something gets on the internet, be it the daily mail or gangnam style.
- nqzero 9y agogangnam style is a deeply insightful (though i don't know myself if it is accurate) critique of korean culture. it's not necessarily popular because it's insightful, but definitely a bad analogy in your case
- zeristor 9y agoMy Dad always used to point out that it was the only paper that campaigned for Stephen Lawrence to bring to light institutional racism in the Met Police. Not a minor issue by any means, absurdly here's a link to the Guardian write up on it. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/jan/04/stephen-lawrence-parents-daily-mail https://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/jan/04/stephen-lawren...
- fnord123 9y agoBroken clock correct sometimes. News at 11.
- bonaldi 9y agoIt did that because a relative of Lawrence knew Dacre (the editor) having been employed as a tradesman by him. Given the near-racist tone of some of their other coverage of black crime in London, I put this one in the "oh I don't mean you, I know you, you're fine, it's all the other ones I have a problem with" corner.
- wcummings 9y agoI detest its politics, but I love reading the nypost... Papers like this are as much for entertainment as they are for news.
- falsedan 9y agoPapers have a social duty to represent the goings-on of the world to their readers. If they're publishing fabricated stories 'for the lols', then I feel they should be clearly marked/presented as substantially different to the newspapers who do fact-based reporting. Oh, that story where we called you a child-molesting tax-dodging illegal refugee? That was clearly a joke! Private Eye manages to both entertain and inform, but it's very dry.
- XJOKOLAT 9y agoArchaeologically, in the centuries to come, this will either explain a lot, or condemn us. Excuse my colourful language, the DM is a shit newspaper ... understandably excluded from fact based discussions.
- PJDK 9y agoFor all it's many faults their policy of long descriptive headlines followed by bullet point summaries is a model I wish all news sites followed! Given their success I'm not sure why more don't.
- IshKebab 9y agoAnd photos large enough to actually see. Very sad that the Daily Mail is leading the way here.
- logicallee 9y agoPerhaps real information is harder to source than fake info, and real news is too scant to benefit from that format. Also why papers bury the lead. (To make you read their hard work.) As an exercise go to the BBC and edit the first three articles you find into that format - you will see why they don't want to do it.
- TeMPOraL 9y agoI.e. the interests of the readers are in conflict with interests of the paper. Frankly, if they want to bury the lede to make me read their hard work, then I'll gladly not read the article at all, unless forced to (rare these days).
- visarga 9y ago> For all it's many faults their policy of long descriptive headlines followed by bullet point summaries is a model I wish all news sites followed! Thanks to this ML can use it as a summarization dataset.
- exodust 9y agoI hate bullet point summaries in news stories, they're distracting and add clutter. They should at least be hidden and only viewable when clicked.
- OJFord 9y agoWhat's wrong with the submission, content-wise? Is everyone just mad that it was originally broadcast on the radio instead of published in a newspaper?
- mixedCase 9y agoDo I have to be mad to prefer text over audio when trying to get the news on a computer?
- OJFord 9y agoI'm not saying it's a mad preference, but I don't think it's reasonable to be mad that radio-broadcast content was later published online for your convenience, but not transcribed for you.
- Kluny 9y agoSometimes when people say "mad" they mean crazy. That's usually what brits mean. Other times, "mad" means angry. That's usually what Americans means. However, based on the context of my parent and grandparent comments, I have no idea what either of them meant, and I don't think they do either. It's late at night though.
- dmix 9y agoThe good thing about having no pretension (or feigning class) is that you can focus purely on user functionality over some preconceived ideas of what a newspaper should be. As much as it's obvious that DailyMail is low brow, and personally not being from the UK, I have still found myself on a number of occasions spending time on the site and getting lost in various random articles. They've certainly done a good job with the site. Mastering how to tease stories and communicate the juicy bits. Likewise you could praise the Nazi's for their warfighting ability even if their cause is detestable :p
- falsedan 9y ago