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Interesting and maybe useful to me - if UK taxonomy is similar. However: "Avenue (Ave): may have trees on one side, perpendicular to streets" I can't think o
by hardlianotion 9y ago
Interesting and maybe useful to me - if UK taxonomy is similar. However:
"Avenue (Ave): may have trees on one side, perpendicular to streets"
I can't think of a sensible tree/road relationship in which the tree is not perpendicular to the road direction. Does this make sense to anyone else?
- dave84 9y agoI don't think the perpendicular remark is about the trees specifically, just Avenues being perpendicular to streets.
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- hardlianotion 9y agod'oh. Thanks to all that pointed this out.
- zhte415 9y agoWhat I can think of the the UK, please add or disagree, perhaps there's also regional variation: * Street - A road that traditionally had shops; may or may not today * Road - Linking 2 places, may or may not have buildings * Lane - Traditionally lined by bushes, winding, or otherwise 'small' * Gardens - Limited to residential housing * Court - Enclosed square * Square - With a road/roads encircling it * Causeway - Next to the sea, sure * Avenue - Can recall a handful growing up but nothing made them distinguishable. Roads invariably as straight lines, other than the ones the Romans built, are an alien concept * Boulevard - Never met a boulevard in the UK * Parkway - Only one I can think of is Bristol Parkway, but I think of that as a train station
- barcoder 9y ago* Drove - Used for bringing livestock to market. Left over from agricultural times.
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- Symbiote 9y ago* Street Doesn't need shops, this is the default word within any built-up area (even a village centre). * Square - With a road/roads encircling it No, this would be a paved area usually outside significant buildings. Often contained a market. * Market - the market square, or the streets at its sides * Causeway That's a road to an island that floods at high tide. * Mews -- houses that used to be stables * Circus -- roads joining with a circular "square" (Oxford Circus, Piccadilly Circus). Boulevard, avenue and parkway tend to suggest imported American terms for places under 80 years old. * Parade -- small shops in a 20th century development * Hill -- obvious * Gate -- either a city gate, or cognate to the Norse word for street (c.f. Danish gade). * Terrace, drive, crescent, esplanade, villas, walk, approach, ...
- wink 9y agoFinally a domain where English is a lot more specific, ruining the joke on us Germans :P Common road/street identifiers here include: - X-Y-Strasse = e.g. "John Smith Street", bigger street - X-Weg = e.g. "Falcon Road", smaller street, probably more rural, but hard to tell - Y-Gasse = e.g. "Market Alley", smaller street, probably more urban, but hard to tell - X-Allee = e.g "Poplar Alley", it has trees on both sides - X-Ring/Bogen = really only circular roads, not so common And of course stuff like "XYZ-Platz" (Place/Square) and when there's water around, "XYZ-Damm" (Dike) I think my point is that 90% use Strasse/Weg/Platz and only 10% combined are all the rest - or I am totally oblivious to the rules, but afaik I've never seen anything like naming them different based on direction or hard criteria for buildings around (exception is "Allee") NB: I used hyphenation in my examples to better distinguish, this is only the correct form for most given names. e.g. it would "Johann-Schmidt-Strasse", but written in one word (e.g. "Falkenweg" for "Falcon Road") and in 2 words for place names, e.g. "Berliner Strasse" for "Berlin Street").
- frobozz 9y agoAvenues are straight paths or roads with trees on either side.
- arethuza 9y agoSome Scots ones: - Loan - Close - Brae
- hardlianotion 9y agoAny clue as to what these signify? Close I think I know.
- arethuza 9y agoA brae is a hill/slope, close is a narrow lane running off a high street. A loan I had to look up and this sounds plausible: "A "loaning" is a piece of uncultivated ground where cows are milked. A 'loan' is the path leading to said place."
- dghf 9y agoA close is an alleyway off which one or more doors to residential tenements open. Alternative names are entry, court, and wynd, with some nuances: a court is more likely to open up into a courtyard, and a wynd more likely to be a means of getting from A to B, rather than just somewhere people live.
- arethuza 9y agoJust though of another one: "vennel" - which I thought was just The Vennel in Edinburgh but which actually seems to just be an example of a vennel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vennel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vennel
- barrkel 9y agoIt's two separate clauses; the trees run along the road, the avenue is perpendicular to a street. Avenue in the UK, outside newer built suburbs, means tree-lined, explicitly. I used to live on Avenue Road in London, which gets a double take from people used to American naming conventions.
- oska 9y agoA good editor would have replaced that comma with a semicolon.
- JadeNB 9y ago> > "Avenue (Ave): may have trees on one side, perpendicular to streets" > A good editor would have replaced that comma with a semicolon. As usual for such problems, there are multiple fixes. I think just switching the clauses, as in "Avenue: perpendicular to streets, may have trees on one side", is just as clear (although of course it's easy to come up with examples where such a re-ordering won't do it).
- tzs 9y agoI don't think switching the clauses helps. The two clauses are meant to be completely independent. In some places "avenue" means a road having trees on the side, regardless of how that road is related to streets. In other places, "avenue" means perpendicular to streets, regardless of whether or not it has trees. An example of such a place is Seattle, which chooses "street" or "avenue" based solely on direction. Streets run east/west, avenues run north/south.
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