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Do they really exist though? Assange travelled to the US on several occasions before the Swedish charges came up ...

ttctciyf 9y ago
I think the best indication that's emerged is in Comey's recent testimony[1] > before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Comey was asked why the United States had not charged WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange with a crime. Comey said he had to be careful with his answer, because he did not want to confirm whether there were charges pending against Assange, but then responded: “He hasn't been apprehended because he is inside the Ecuadorian embassy in London.” 1: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/03/james-comey-wikileaks-intelligence-porn-237932 http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/03/james-comey-wikilea...
- abritinthebay 9y ago
  Which, as evidence to that goes, isn't any. Comey can't comment on classified or open cases (which Assange would be because, duh, WikiLeaks) just procedural things. Which that was. It says nothing other than they have an investigation- well we knew that.
  - ttctciyf 9y ago
    > It says nothing other than they have an investigation- well we knew that. To me, the words “he hasn't been apprehended because he is inside the Ecuadorian embassy in London" strongly imply, in context, that the US has an intention to "apprehend" Assange.
    - abritinthebay 9y ago
      Well yes. We knew that already too. The US already wanted to apprehend him while he was walking around London before his Embassy period so it's clearly not a snatch & grab situation. He's not been officially charged with a crime in the US yet either so extradition isn't an issue.
      - ttctciyf 9y ago
        > > > > > do secret charges exist? > > > > The best info we have is from Comey's testimony which says 'maybe' and they want to arrest him > > > It says nothing other than they have an investigation- well we knew that. > > and they want to arrest him > Well yes. We knew that already too. Anything else that we already know you would like to add?
        abritinthebay 9y ago
        Nah. Given you've already devolved into misquoting and misrepresentation, I'm pretty sure we're done here.
k-mcgrady 9y ago
Not sure about 'secret charges' but there are these recent charges. [1] [1] http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/20/politics/julian-assange-wikileaks-us-charges/ http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/20/politics/julian-assange-wi...
- ginko 9y ago
  What base do these have? Assange isn't a US citizen, so he can't be charged for treason like Snowden and Manning. He just gained information and published it.
  - idlewords 9y ago
    Neither Snowden nor Manning was charged with treason.
  - ekianjo 9y ago
    opponents to the US In many countries around the world were captured and sent to Guantanamo. Do you need any rules when you are the one with the largest power In the world?
  - k-mcgrady 9y ago
    AFAIK they could try and charge him under the Espionage Act but it would be difficult and unlikely to succeed. I think there are one or two other possible charges but both are also unlikely to succeed. As long as they can make his life a living hell though (long trial, loss of freedoms until found innocent) that would hopefully (from the USG perspective) discourage other leakers.
    - josteink 9y ago
      > AFAIK they could try and charge him under the Espionage Act but it would be difficult and unlikely to succeed. So you are saying the US has laws which within US jurisdiction says that it's OK to file for extradition of non-US citizens anywhere in the world, if the US doesn't like what they do? Good for them, I guess, but why should the rest of the world comply? If we should comply with this for the US, surely we should do so too for Iran, China and Russia, just to mention a few. Is that a direction which anyone have any illusions about ever ending well?

I think the best indication that's emerged is in Comey's recent testimony[1] > before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Comey was asked why the United States had not charged WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange with a crime. Comey said he had to be careful with his answer, because he did not want to confirm whether there were charges pending against Assange, but then responded: “He hasn't been apprehended because he is inside the Ecuadorian embassy in London.” 1: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/03/james-comey-wikileaks-intelligence-porn-237932 http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/03/james-comey-wikilea...

abritinthebay 9y ago
Which, as evidence to that goes, isn't any. Comey can't comment on classified or open cases (which Assange would be because, duh, WikiLeaks) just procedural things. Which that was. It says nothing other than they have an investigation- well we knew that.
- ttctciyf 9y ago
  > It says nothing other than they have an investigation- well we knew that. To me, the words “he hasn't been apprehended because he is inside the Ecuadorian embassy in London" strongly imply, in context, that the US has an intention to "apprehend" Assange.
  - abritinthebay 9y ago
    Well yes. We knew that already too. The US already wanted to apprehend him while he was walking around London before his Embassy period so it's clearly not a snatch & grab situation. He's not been officially charged with a crime in the US yet either so extradition isn't an issue.
    - ttctciyf 9y ago
      > > > > > do secret charges exist? > > > > The best info we have is from Comey's testimony which says 'maybe' and they want to arrest him > > > It says nothing other than they have an investigation- well we knew that. > > and they want to arrest him > Well yes. We knew that already too. Anything else that we already know you would like to add?
      - abritinthebay 9y ago
        Nah. Given you've already devolved into misquoting and misrepresentation, I'm pretty sure we're done here.

k-mcgrady 9y ago

Not sure about 'secret charges' but there are these recent charges. [1] [1] http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/20/politics/julian-assange-wikileaks-us-charges/ http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/20/politics/julian-assange-wi...

ginko 9y ago
What base do these have? Assange isn't a US citizen, so he can't be charged for treason like Snowden and Manning. He just gained information and published it.
- idlewords 9y ago
  Neither Snowden nor Manning was charged with treason.
- ekianjo 9y ago
  opponents to the US In many countries around the world were captured and sent to Guantanamo. Do you need any rules when you are the one with the largest power In the world?
- k-mcgrady 9y ago
  AFAIK they could try and charge him under the Espionage Act but it would be difficult and unlikely to succeed. I think there are one or two other possible charges but both are also unlikely to succeed. As long as they can make his life a living hell though (long trial, loss of freedoms until found innocent) that would hopefully (from the USG perspective) discourage other leakers.
  - josteink 9y ago
    > AFAIK they could try and charge him under the Espionage Act but it would be difficult and unlikely to succeed. So you are saying the US has laws which within US jurisdiction says that it's OK to file for extradition of non-US citizens anywhere in the world, if the US doesn't like what they do? Good for them, I guess, but why should the rest of the world comply? If we should comply with this for the US, surely we should do so too for Iran, China and Russia, just to mention a few. Is that a direction which anyone have any illusions about ever ending well?