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That's clever and all, but I feel like it dodges a very important human rights issue, rather than tackling it head-on. People shouldn't have to resort to some I

by kortex 9y ago

That's clever and all, but I feel like it dodges a very important human rights issue, rather than tackling it head-on. People shouldn't have to resort to some Inspector Gadget-esque "this message will selfdestruct" or real-partition-hidden-partition mechanism. Furthermore it also disadvantages people who are less tech savvy and can't implement such mechanisms. If you're not served a warrant, they shouldn't be allowed go snooping into locked devices.

chii 9y ago
When a legal rights don't exist, people go for a way to enforce their rights technologically.
- wordupmaking 9y ago
  So "the internet" keeps saying for over a decade, yet the collar keeps shrinking. I think it's kool-aid.
  - sqeaky 9y ago
    As a group it doesn't work for any but the largest issues, look at SOPA. But many individuals do what they can. Consider the increase in encryption use.
mikeash 9y ago
It's not a dodge unless it's being proposed as an acceptable alternative to reforming these powers, not merely a way to cope with them. You can reasonably attempt to implement both technological and political solutions.
komali2 9y ago
The problem is in this case, the guy is specifically in a grey area of "enemy of powers-that-be in the country he's entering." He deals with for example cases where western nations torture terror suspects. If we leave law aside and think only in terms of "sides," that means that he is "opposed" to these governments, and it would only make sense for them to be hostile to him using their powers (arrest, taking his laptops, etc). Now let's continue to leave the law aside, because that's what our governments can do when they please, usually by not telling us (Snowden showed us this several years ago in no uncertain terms). So, human rights or no, a hidden-partition mechanism is merely allowing a civilian to use the same tools a government is - non-legal ones. In an ideal world, everybody (governments and civilians) would follow perfectly fair laws. That's not this world, those aren't our governments, so we all should be open to resorting outside the legal system to protect ourselves.

by kortex 9y ago

chii 9y ago

When a legal rights don't exist, people go for a way to enforce their rights technologically.

wordupmaking 9y ago
So "the internet" keeps saying for over a decade, yet the collar keeps shrinking. I think it's kool-aid.
- sqeaky 9y ago
  As a group it doesn't work for any but the largest issues, look at SOPA. But many individuals do what they can. Consider the increase in encryption use.

mikeash 9y ago

It's not a dodge unless it's being proposed as an acceptable alternative to reforming these powers, not merely a way to cope with them. You can reasonably attempt to implement both technological and political solutions.

komali2 9y ago

The problem is in this case, the guy is specifically in a grey area of "enemy of powers-that-be in the country he's entering." He deals with for example cases where western nations torture terror suspects. If we leave law aside and think only in terms of "sides," that means that he is "opposed" to these governments, and it would only make sense for them to be hostile to him using their powers (arrest, taking his laptops, etc). Now let's continue to leave the law aside, because that's what our governments can do when they please, usually by not telling us (Snowden showed us this several years ago in no uncertain terms). So, human rights or no, a hidden-partition mechanism is merely allowing a civilian to use the same tools a government is - non-legal ones. In an ideal world, everybody (governments and civilians) would follow perfectly fair laws. That's not this world, those aren't our governments, so we all should be open to resorting outside the legal system to protect ourselves.