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Anyone who roots their phone, in all likelyhood, knows how to pirate the content: granted Netflix is way more convenient, that's why I pay them. I don't watch o
by alistproducer2 9y ago
Anyone who roots their phone, in all likelyhood, knows how to pirate the content: granted Netflix is way more convenient, that's why I pay them. I don't watch on mobile devices so this doesn't bother me. If I did watch on mobile and I had a rooted device, they would definitely stop seeing my money though. When will these companies learn to stop going after the nerds; we're the one who actually know how to get around you if you piss us off.
- jjeaff 9y agoI believe those that are using Plex with sonarr and radarr and a newsgroup sub have it just as convenient as Netflix except with way more content. After it's all setup of course.
- kbar13 9y agothe maintenance of such a setup is still prohibitive. hardware failure is really annoying.
- sergiotapia 9y agoCan confirm, Sonarr+Radarr+NZBget+Usenet+Plex+1gb-internet and I have everything I need at a moments notice. I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime for convenience and proper subtitles, that's literally the only reason.
- jsmeaton 9y agoIs radarr a couchpotato replacement? Any reason to prefer radarr?
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- stevewillows 9y agoradarr is couchpotato and sonarr in one.
- mannanj90 9y agocould you give more info for a newbie trying to learn more/get into using these?
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- rocqua 9y agoSo, there are 3 parts to such a system. The first, is a 'searcher'. Here, that is sonarr (for finding TV series) and radarr (for finding movies). There are some alternatives. Most notably couchpotato for movies. You simply tell these programs what you want to see, and they look through torrents and newsgroups to find that content. Next, you need a downloader (or 2 if you use both torrents and newsgroups). For this, it is important that your 'searchers' can talk to the downloader, so things happen automatically. Basically anything should work here. Finally, and optionally, there is a viewer. Plex is the biggest here. It allows you to view your media anywhere with an internet connection, it also tracks your library, and what you've watched. You can set up your searchers to export all downloaded files to plex. For starters, I'd set up a simple searcher-downloader system, and build up from there.
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- kevingrahl 9y agoCan confirm that I have way more content than Netflix (currently clocking in at around 125TB, I may have a slight problem). I cancelled my Netflix account after all that no-VPN bullshit. I like my privacy, thank you very much. I've to admit I quite enjoy when friends come telling me that tv show XYZ isn't on Netflix any more, asking to be added to my Plex server. Every single person cancelled their account after a few days of having access to my library. I don't even like pirating, I'd like to pay for my content (provided I like it) and often I do buy the DVD/Bluray just for it to sit in it's packaging in my basement collecting dust.
- MichaelGG 9y agoHow do you host this setup? Any howtos if I wanted to run a service for my family?
- drampelt 9y agoPersonally I use Amazon Cloud Drive for the unlimited storage, there's a guide to set that up here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PleX/comments/58uhmo/guide_to_using_amazon_cloud_drive_and_encfs_for/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PleX/comments/58uhmo/guide_to_using... Then once you have Sonarr and/or Radarr setup for TV/Movies you can use something like Ombi to allow family/friends to request content and have it automatically downloaded and added to Plex.
- chris11 9y agoWhat kind of Internet speed do you need for streaming 1080p without transcoding?
- thro1237 9y agoIf you encrypt the videos, then do they count as free in Amazon Cloud Drive?
- simlevesque 9y agoI don't think that you are allowed to encrypt data on ACD.
- emdowling 9y agoI used to have a setup like this and those described in other comments, but it just became too hard to worry about. Synology updates breaking things, missing parts on newsgroups, etc. I've replaced it with Netflix and occasionally paying for specific content not available there (like Westworld). It's just 10x easier and about the same price anyway. I fly enough that I get to watch all the movies I want to on IFE. I just don't have the patience or time to put up with the inconveniences of piracy any more.
- maxerickson 9y agoOstensibly what they want to stop is it becoming popular to root a phone to record content. I imagine the number of people that care about rooting their phone is small enough that it doesn't really matter to their revenue.
- bubblethink 9y agoKnowing how to pirate is quite different from being able to pirate easily. Torrenting is a small niche now (at least in the US) because of ISP DMCA notices etc., whereas billions of people own smartphones worldwide. If someone releases a netflix-ripper app, it would quite likely see a higher adoption than bittorrent.
- Buge 9y agoHow would a Netflix ripper be popular at all? You would have to pay the Netflix subscription + it would have no benefit over pirating.
- dooglius 9y agoA netflix ripping app would surely be banned from the Play Store, and would still not be able to solve the content distribution problem. Netflix doesn't care if you rip content, they care if you try to distribute ripped content to others, which is really only feasible with bitttorent or similar.
- bubblethink 9y agoIt doesn't have to be on the play-store. Also, netflix cares more about ongoing subscription than re-distribution. So if I rip a sizable chuck of what I want to watch, I won't renew my subscription.
- dylan604 9y agoWhat's to stop Netflix from uniquely forensically watermarking each user's streams? If anyone person starts to rip their streams for redistributing, then it will be easy enough for them to determine which user it was and block that account. The small number of people that would be able/willing to rip would be easy enough to track down.
- hkmurakami 9y agoThey wouldn't be able to recoup damages from lost (potential) revenue from the cat (content) coming out of the bag (walled garden), even if they identify and go after the rip sources. You can't expect to be able to collect a 9+ figures from a random individual
- MichaelGG 9y agoA download utility like put.io and a nice search site like skytorrents.in seem to do the job pretty well. As a bonus I can get subtitles or not, Vs whatever Netflix decides. And there's a wider selection of content. And streaming will start in high def. And I can use a different player if I want audio or brightness boost. Plus I spend less time endlessly browsing a catalog.
- emdowling 9y agoThe thing is that Netflix doesn't really care about "the nerds". They don't need to. I'd wager that less than 0.005% of their user base will actually care enough about this to cancel their subscription. If these changes mean that their content is harder to get and less technically inclined people become paying customers, then that hit is totally worth it.
- tonmoy 9y agoIf they don't care about the nerds then why bother with blocking rooted devices?
- whazor 9y agoNerds work for them to make their platform working.
- emdowling 9y agoCustomers come before team and ego every single day of the week. If you don't believe that and aren't prepared to do things that have biggest positive customer impact, you should resign immediately.
- rangibaby 9y agoWhat the customers want and the "biggest positive customer impact" are often not the same thing. Especially with bad clients.
- exodust 9y ago> I don't watch on mobile devices so this doesn't bother me. Nor do I, but the app was useful for sending the video to chromecast. That said, I find chromecast painful and restrictive in terms of streaming content from other regions using VPN. Chromecast is very uptight and locked down to your native location. I stopped using Chromecast for that reason after not finding a workaround. When I was only watching my region's content (Australia) the Netflix app was useful. Unfortunately, Australia's Netflix content library was too weak, so I needed other regions to make it worthwhile.
- jon-wood 9y agoI gave up on this sort of thing ages ago because it just wasn't worth the hassle, but the nerd in me likes a technical problem to solve, so... With a decent router you could configure it to connect to the VPN of your choice and then route requests from your Chromecast's IP over it. The Chromecast would probably not know the difference, and you can also route anything else over whatever VPNs you like.
- usegolang 9y agoThe biggest loser here is likely the Chromecast. I use my phone to push that all the time, but I'm not about to unroot my phone just for Netflix.
- amelius 9y ago> When will these companies learn to stop going after the nerds I believe they are not specifically going after the nerds. They need such heavy protection only because otherwise some nerds will make circumvention tools which the average person will then use.
- mcv 9y agoAnd what about non-mobile computers, which are (almost) never locked down? Why single out mobile? I prefer watching Netflix on my TV rather than a tiny phone screen, but if I did want to watch it on mobile, I'm a bit worried how they might treat my Fairphone.
- hyder_m29 9y agoNetflix allows downloading only on their mobile apps
- em3rgent0rdr 9y agoNetflix is likely to loose more money from unsubscribing than revenue lost from the increased ability to pirate.