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I am happy Android user as well and own Nexus 6P. One thing I tell everyone is that N6P takes as good photos as iPhone7/7P but Google is doing so poor job in co

I am happy Android user as well and own Nexus 6P. One thing I tell everyone is that N6P takes as good photos as iPhone7/7P but Google is doing so poor job in communicating that through their marketing.

swah 9y ago
Nexus 6P isn't even available in my country (Brazil) other than in Ebay-like places. iPhones 5/6/7 on the other hand, are everywhere, even if they cost a kidney. Nobody outside bubble wants a Nexus 6P. There are hundreds or thousands of fitness people making a living on Instagram, promoting healthy products mixed with booty shots. 99% percent of them have an iPhone as the only tool they need to do their job.
- diminish 9y ago
  So IOS share must be very strong in Brazilian markets: It's above 4%. https//www.neowin.net/news/kantar-android-sales-up-in-most-markets-ios-down-in-china-windows-phone-sales-fall-again
  - swah 9y ago
    No - everybody wants an iPhone. Everybody has an Android, which they probably paid 200 to 300 USD in 6 to 12 monthly parcels. An iPhone 7 costs 3 to 4 monthly "minimum wages" (300 USD) here. I was talking about trend setters, media people, higher class, and elites...
  - dagw 9y ago
    The interesting data would be the market share of iOS vs Android among only the people who can actually afford an iPhone
    - swah 9y ago
      The only data I could find right now: devices used while searching for flights. Google translate with minor fixes: "The savings continues to matter more than comfort, as indicated in the survey published in 2015. Economy class concentrates 96% of searches for flights performed on all platforms, while the executive account for 3%. (...) Regarding business class flights, the iPhone is the most used device, with 5.1%, followed by 2.7% via Desktop and 1.4% via Android."
- saiya-jin 9y ago
  why do you care what some people on instagram are using? i don't get this sheepish mentality. you can get gazillion variants of android devices from 150 to 800 USD, with massive screens, 8 core cpu and 4 gb of memory, dual sims, memory card slot, 3.5mm jack and so on. or go apple, but FFS do it because it suits you and your budget, not because of some crappy instagram healthy people
- Yizahi 9y ago
  Yeah, while Google, Apple and formerly Motorola refuse to properly sell their phones we are enjoying hundreds of Chinese and Korean models, some of them even better than those phones from Default Country. Apple can bruteforce by brand image even through unofficial resellers but Google can't and don't want apparently.
bitmapbrother 9y ago
Poor job communicating it? Saying that they had the best rated smartphone camera of all time was one of their main points during their Pixel ad campaign.
- throwaway8800 9y ago
  Pixel had an ad campaign?
  - philliphaydon 9y ago
    Pixel???
    - jfoutz 9y ago
      Yeah, you remember, google's really fancy chromebook.
      - seanp2k2 9y ago
        Ooh, no wait, their phone line, after they killed "Nexus" despite building a solid brand behind that for a few years. To call it the same thing that their original Chromebook was called was just insult to injury. Whoever manages their branding obviously has no idea what they're doing. See also: "Google Apps" is now G Suite. Why? This is their official answer, along with a table to reference for what all the new names are, along with this brilliant bit about the change: """ We created Google Apps to help people everywhere work and innovate together, so organizations can move faster and achieve more. On September 29, 2016, we introduced a new name that better reflects this mission: G Suite. """ https://support.google.com/a/answer/7126147?hl=en https://support.google.com/a/answer/7126147?hl=en Given their history, the next name (due in 2018) shall be "GCloud" or "Cloud by Google".
        loxias 9y ago
        Pixel? That's their tablet, right? Nexus is for their audio device.
terrywang 9y ago
Nexus 5X has exactly the same back camera, it takes pretty good pictures, software optimisation may have a lot to do with photo qualities as if you run LineageOS / CyanogenMod, you won't be getting as good photos for sure. The problem with the Nexus 5X/6P is the poor build quality. While Pixel takes even better photos but the price? Execuse me, I am not going to pay AUD 1,296 for Pixel X 32GB (I got an iPhone 7 Plus 256GB for AUD 1,250 to replace the dead Nexus 5X for good).
- another-dave 9y ago
  Though guess Google's selling point on the smaller disk space is that it has unlimited cloud back-up for original quality photos & video. Know you're locked in to their platform, but the ease of having photos/vids synced directly to Google Photos is quite nice with my Nexus 5, so feels like a big plus if I were to buy a Pixel and start shooting 4k video. That said, still can't get over that high a price tag to go out & buy one.
Tanegashima 9y ago
No, the 6p doesn't have OIS or dual camera or the DOF effect. Quit lying to yourself
- dang 9y ago
  Would you please not post uncivilly? We ban accounts that violate the site guidelines like this.
  - Tanegashima 9y ago
    Yes, coming to a post that's only about Apple, with Android propaganda, is very civil!
TaylorAlexander 9y ago
I had my 2013 Nexus 5 until it died, even after that one software update killed performance with no change in features. I wanted to buy a Pixel XL. They weren't available. I live and work near mountain view. They were sold out even if you sign up for Google Fi (a trick a Googler friend suggested). I'm already on Google Voice so Fi would be awesome. Could not get them for weeks. I got tired of waiting and bought an iPhone 7 Plus. I love it. I dislike the closed software interface but don't want Samsung bloat so I saw it as the best other option. The hardware is great and I found out a lot of my friends are on iMessage. iCloud doesn't try to do creepy things. I like the fingerprint scanner. I would have loved to try the Pixel.
- peteretep 9y ago
  Sometimes feels like Communism vs Capitalism. I love the idea of an Android phone, but the "Samsung bloat" and the rest terrify me. Conceptually I hate Apple's closed ecosystem but it's secure, they seem to take privacy very seriously, and it Just Works Really Well, almost all the time.
  - currywurst 9y ago
    The "Samsung bloat" is a thing of the past .. The new phones come with more restrained and thoughtful touches that enhances the phone.
    - scotu 9y ago
      No worries, they listened and they got your back https://www.xda-developers.com/samsungs-partnership-with-mcafee-will-pre-install-mcafee-virusscan-on-the-galaxy-s8/ https://www.xda-developers.com/samsungs-partnership-with-mca... Want some mcafee with your s8? No? Well sucks being you...
      - NTripleOne 9y ago
        Good job you install your own preferred flavour of android on it, then.
ddoolin 9y ago
I just moved back to an iPhone after a year of 6P ownership on Fi and I gotta say I don't think the camera is nearly as good. My two qualms were low light performance and the time-to-shoot after tapping the shutter button. My 6P would take annoyingly long (presumably to focus/adjust?) before taking the first shot, but the iPhone is ready immediately. Overall I quite enjoyed 6P ownership but missed the ecosystem/handoff I had before.

swah 9y ago

Nexus 6P isn't even available in my country (Brazil) other than in Ebay-like places. iPhones 5/6/7 on the other hand, are everywhere, even if they cost a kidney. Nobody outside bubble wants a Nexus 6P. There are hundreds or thousands of fitness people making a living on Instagram, promoting healthy products mixed with booty shots. 99% percent of them have an iPhone as the only tool they need to do their job.

diminish 9y ago
So IOS share must be very strong in Brazilian markets: It's above 4%. https//www.neowin.net/news/kantar-android-sales-up-in-most-markets-ios-down-in-china-windows-phone-sales-fall-again
- swah 9y ago
  No - everybody wants an iPhone. Everybody has an Android, which they probably paid 200 to 300 USD in 6 to 12 monthly parcels. An iPhone 7 costs 3 to 4 monthly "minimum wages" (300 USD) here. I was talking about trend setters, media people, higher class, and elites...
- dagw 9y ago
  The interesting data would be the market share of iOS vs Android among only the people who can actually afford an iPhone
  - swah 9y ago
    The only data I could find right now: devices used while searching for flights. Google translate with minor fixes: "The savings continues to matter more than comfort, as indicated in the survey published in 2015. Economy class concentrates 96% of searches for flights performed on all platforms, while the executive account for 3%. (...) Regarding business class flights, the iPhone is the most used device, with 5.1%, followed by 2.7% via Desktop and 1.4% via Android."
saiya-jin 9y ago
why do you care what some people on instagram are using? i don't get this sheepish mentality. you can get gazillion variants of android devices from 150 to 800 USD, with massive screens, 8 core cpu and 4 gb of memory, dual sims, memory card slot, 3.5mm jack and so on. or go apple, but FFS do it because it suits you and your budget, not because of some crappy instagram healthy people
Yizahi 9y ago
Yeah, while Google, Apple and formerly Motorola refuse to properly sell their phones we are enjoying hundreds of Chinese and Korean models, some of them even better than those phones from Default Country. Apple can bruteforce by brand image even through unofficial resellers but Google can't and don't want apparently.

bitmapbrother 9y ago

Poor job communicating it? Saying that they had the best rated smartphone camera of all time was one of their main points during their Pixel ad campaign.

throwaway8800 9y ago
Pixel had an ad campaign?
- philliphaydon 9y ago
  Pixel???
  - jfoutz 9y ago
    Yeah, you remember, google's really fancy chromebook.
    - seanp2k2 9y ago
      Ooh, no wait, their phone line, after they killed "Nexus" despite building a solid brand behind that for a few years. To call it the same thing that their original Chromebook was called was just insult to injury. Whoever manages their branding obviously has no idea what they're doing. See also: "Google Apps" is now G Suite. Why? This is their official answer, along with a table to reference for what all the new names are, along with this brilliant bit about the change: """ We created Google Apps to help people everywhere work and innovate together, so organizations can move faster and achieve more. On September 29, 2016, we introduced a new name that better reflects this mission: G Suite. """ https://support.google.com/a/answer/7126147?hl=en https://support.google.com/a/answer/7126147?hl=en Given their history, the next name (due in 2018) shall be "GCloud" or "Cloud by Google".
      - loxias 9y ago
        Pixel? That's their tablet, right? Nexus is for their audio device.

terrywang 9y ago

Nexus 5X has exactly the same back camera, it takes pretty good pictures, software optimisation may have a lot to do with photo qualities as if you run LineageOS / CyanogenMod, you won't be getting as good photos for sure. The problem with the Nexus 5X/6P is the poor build quality. While Pixel takes even better photos but the price? Execuse me, I am not going to pay AUD 1,296 for Pixel X 32GB (I got an iPhone 7 Plus 256GB for AUD 1,250 to replace the dead Nexus 5X for good).

another-dave 9y ago
Though guess Google's selling point on the smaller disk space is that it has unlimited cloud back-up for original quality photos & video. Know you're locked in to their platform, but the ease of having photos/vids synced directly to Google Photos is quite nice with my Nexus 5, so feels like a big plus if I were to buy a Pixel and start shooting 4k video. That said, still can't get over that high a price tag to go out & buy one.

Tanegashima 9y ago

No, the 6p doesn't have OIS or dual camera or the DOF effect. Quit lying to yourself

dang 9y ago
Would you please not post uncivilly? We ban accounts that violate the site guidelines like this.
- Tanegashima 9y ago
  Yes, coming to a post that's only about Apple, with Android propaganda, is very civil!

TaylorAlexander 9y ago

I had my 2013 Nexus 5 until it died, even after that one software update killed performance with no change in features. I wanted to buy a Pixel XL. They weren't available. I live and work near mountain view. They were sold out even if you sign up for Google Fi (a trick a Googler friend suggested). I'm already on Google Voice so Fi would be awesome. Could not get them for weeks. I got tired of waiting and bought an iPhone 7 Plus. I love it. I dislike the closed software interface but don't want Samsung bloat so I saw it as the best other option. The hardware is great and I found out a lot of my friends are on iMessage. iCloud doesn't try to do creepy things. I like the fingerprint scanner. I would have loved to try the Pixel.

peteretep 9y ago
Sometimes feels like Communism vs Capitalism. I love the idea of an Android phone, but the "Samsung bloat" and the rest terrify me. Conceptually I hate Apple's closed ecosystem but it's secure, they seem to take privacy very seriously, and it Just Works Really Well, almost all the time.
- currywurst 9y ago
  The "Samsung bloat" is a thing of the past .. The new phones come with more restrained and thoughtful touches that enhances the phone.
  - scotu 9y ago
    No worries, they listened and they got your back https://www.xda-developers.com/samsungs-partnership-with-mcafee-will-pre-install-mcafee-virusscan-on-the-galaxy-s8/ https://www.xda-developers.com/samsungs-partnership-with-mca... Want some mcafee with your s8? No? Well sucks being you...
    - NTripleOne 9y ago
      Good job you install your own preferred flavour of android on it, then.

ddoolin 9y ago

I just moved back to an iPhone after a year of 6P ownership on Fi and I gotta say I don't think the camera is nearly as good. My two qualms were low light performance and the time-to-shoot after tapping the shutter button. My 6P would take annoyingly long (presumably to focus/adjust?) before taking the first shot, but the iPhone is ready immediately. Overall I quite enjoyed 6P ownership but missed the ecosystem/handoff I had before.