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I'm missing the "How to shoot one-handed at a concert"[0]. I'd love to have zoom not be a pinch only [0] since my other hand is holding my drink

by lflux 9y ago

djrogers 9y ago
I believe the answer is "don't use digital zoom". If you've got a 7+ then you dot have either problem - there's a zoom button on the screen you can tap or drag, and there's a second camera with a zoomed view.
darkstar999 9y ago
I believe the answer is "don't record at a concert because it annoys everyone else and the video is garbage anyway".
- camillomiller 9y ago
  That'd be an amazing quip among this video. You start the video of 'how to shot with iPhone at a concert" and it just says "don't. Enjoy the show"
  - ngcazz 9y ago
    Weren't Apple researching techniques to disable recording during certain events?
    - darkstar999 9y ago
      I sure hope not. That sounds sketchy.
    - throwanem 9y ago
      They appear to have patented a method that's based on infrared emitters installed in the venue. See page 7: http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNum=0&docid=09380225 http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNum=0&docid=09380225 - that seems to be only the drawings, not the full filing, but it's patent #9380225 if you want the full detail. I'm not surprised that they have not implemented this. It would take about five minutes for someone to reverse-engineer one of the beamers, and then about five more for someone else to turn it into something you could hang off your keyring to mess with people, and about thirty seconds after that to produce a huge consumer backlash.
    - camillomiller 9y ago
      Yep, but would you ever buy a device with such a feature, even though you hate compulsive smartographers at concerts?
- yoodenvranx 9y ago
  I wish that bands would just film every concert they do and then offer all the concerts for (paid) download. This way a lot less people would actually try to film the concert because they now can get a much better quality.
  - crottypeter 9y ago
    > This way a lot less people would actually try to film the concert Youtube is already full of good quality concert videos free of charge. People still film concerts. I don't know how to 'fix' this.
    - yoodenvranx 9y ago
      But I don't wanna see _a_ concert, I wanna see _my_ concert, e.g. the one I actually visited.
      - zelos 9y ago
        You could always put the phone away and actually watch the concert live, right?
      - supercoder 9y ago
        have you ever, ever watched back a concert you've recorded ?
      - chrisseaton 9y ago
        But why?
  - eeeeeeeeeeeee 9y ago
    Phish does something similar to this, but only with audio. When you buy a ticket it gets you access to download the MP3s from the website.
- rogy 9y ago
  even worse is the people recording with their phone to the side of their head, so they still get a perfect view, and you're stuck watching the bloody screen
tekism 9y ago
I believe the answer is just search on Instagram or facebook for the event, a lot of other people posting the same crappy concert.
pbhjpbhj 9y ago
I have a cheap Android on which you can set the volume buttons to control zoom, seems like an iPhone would be able to do that too?
- freehunter 9y ago
  iPhone volume buttons are shutter buttons, you can't set them to zoom.
comex 9y ago
One possibility: shoot without zooming, go back afterward and crop, which is the same thing anyway.
- amunster 9y ago
  This is not true for the dual-camera 7 Plus. Though, initial reviews mentioned the second camera (at 2x optical zoom) was not quite as good as the primary camera (1x with OIS). Whether a cropped 1x photo is better than using the 2x camera is beyond the scope of this comment.
  - comex 9y ago
    On the 7 Plus, you can switch between 1x and 2x with a tap, no need to use two hands. :)
  - throwanem 9y ago
    In almost any case, the optical zoom is going to give a more detailed result than cropping an image from the stabilized wide-angle camera; that's not really a high enough zoom factor for stabilization to become an issue, except perhaps in the relatively narrow range of situations where there's enough environmental vibration to produce noticeable image degradation, but not so much that the stabilization motors can't compensate. Admittedly, I'm basing this on my experience with a DSLR, rather than any hands-on time (which I haven't had) with an iPhone 7+. That said, since a lot of what I shoot is wildlife, I very frequently use a 70-300mm tele (on a DX body, so 1.5x crop factor and 105-450 35mm equivalent) that isn't stabilized, and it's really only beyond about 250mm (indicated) that I start to have shaky-hands trouble. Anything less than that, and there's not enough detail in the image for stabilization problems to be perceptible. Since the 7+'s tele camera, as best I can find, seems to have a 35mm equivalent focal length of about 56mm (thus 56-112mm, taking the 2x zoom into account), the lack of stabilization doesn't seem likely to pose too much of a problem. (And if it is, you can always brace the camera and take multiple shots - this latter, in particular, I've found to be a pretty good workaround for the lack of stabilization in my own tele, and when an equivalent lens with VR costs half a grand, a pretty good workaround is nice to have! Generally I find that, taking about two exposures per second at full zoom, about one in every six is sharp enough to be a keeper. Something similar would probably work with an iPhone, if stabilization at full zoom proves to be an issue after all - and burst mode would work really well for this.)
grimgrin 9y ago
In jokingly cynical about a few of my friends using a pop socket and maybe they would help one handed shooting. Seems like how they function you could use one hand to hold and still pinch to zoom. Maybe? https://www.popsockets.com https://www.popsockets.com The Amazon reviews are surprisingly good.
cyberferret 9y ago
Maybe not on the native photo app, but one that I regularly use (Camera+) has a slider next to the shutter button that can be used to zoom in out with one finger.
ricw 9y ago
On the 7 plus you can zoom in and out with one hand by dragging the zoom icon left and right.
pvg 9y ago
This may be one of the very few situations in which a perfectly practical, safe and sensible solution begins with 'Hold my beer'.
Whitespace 9y ago
You can use the ooo app to zoom with one hand: http://thisalso.com/projects/ooo http://thisalso.com/projects/ooo or https://itunes.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1182459078?mt=8 https://itunes.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1182459078?mt=8
almostarockstar 9y ago
Genuine question, assuming your not trolling, when was the last time you watched a concert video that you took?
- criddell 9y ago
  I think a lot of those end up being shared on social media. I'm guessing not many are watched later.
bobbyi_settv 9y ago
Maybe they'll follow that up with a series on how to text while driving

I'm missing the "How to shoot one-handed at a concert"[0]. I'd love to have zoom not be a pinch only [0] since my other hand is holding my drink

by lflux 9y ago

I'm missing the "How to shoot one-handed at a concert"[0]. I'd love to have zoom not be a pinch only [0] since my other hand is holding my drink

djrogers 9y ago

I believe the answer is "don't use digital zoom". If you've got a 7+ then you dot have either problem - there's a zoom button on the screen you can tap or drag, and there's a second camera with a zoomed view.

darkstar999 9y ago

I believe the answer is "don't record at a concert because it annoys everyone else and the video is garbage anyway".

camillomiller 9y ago
That'd be an amazing quip among this video. You start the video of 'how to shot with iPhone at a concert" and it just says "don't. Enjoy the show"
- ngcazz 9y ago
  Weren't Apple researching techniques to disable recording during certain events?
  - darkstar999 9y ago
    I sure hope not. That sounds sketchy.
  - throwanem 9y ago
    They appear to have patented a method that's based on infrared emitters installed in the venue. See page 7: http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNum=0&docid=09380225 http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNum=0&docid=09380225 - that seems to be only the drawings, not the full filing, but it's patent #9380225 if you want the full detail. I'm not surprised that they have not implemented this. It would take about five minutes for someone to reverse-engineer one of the beamers, and then about five more for someone else to turn it into something you could hang off your keyring to mess with people, and about thirty seconds after that to produce a huge consumer backlash.
  - camillomiller 9y ago
    Yep, but would you ever buy a device with such a feature, even though you hate compulsive smartographers at concerts?
yoodenvranx 9y ago
I wish that bands would just film every concert they do and then offer all the concerts for (paid) download. This way a lot less people would actually try to film the concert because they now can get a much better quality.
- crottypeter 9y ago
  > This way a lot less people would actually try to film the concert Youtube is already full of good quality concert videos free of charge. People still film concerts. I don't know how to 'fix' this.
  - yoodenvranx 9y ago
    But I don't wanna see _a_ concert, I wanna see _my_ concert, e.g. the one I actually visited.
    - zelos 9y ago
      You could always put the phone away and actually watch the concert live, right?
    - supercoder 9y ago
      have you ever, ever watched back a concert you've recorded ?
    - chrisseaton 9y ago
      But why?
- eeeeeeeeeeeee 9y ago
  Phish does something similar to this, but only with audio. When you buy a ticket it gets you access to download the MP3s from the website.
rogy 9y ago
even worse is the people recording with their phone to the side of their head, so they still get a perfect view, and you're stuck watching the bloody screen

tekism 9y ago

I believe the answer is just search on Instagram or facebook for the event, a lot of other people posting the same crappy concert.

pbhjpbhj 9y ago

I have a cheap Android on which you can set the volume buttons to control zoom, seems like an iPhone would be able to do that too?

freehunter 9y ago
iPhone volume buttons are shutter buttons, you can't set them to zoom.

comex 9y ago

One possibility: shoot without zooming, go back afterward and crop, which is the same thing anyway.

amunster 9y ago
This is not true for the dual-camera 7 Plus. Though, initial reviews mentioned the second camera (at 2x optical zoom) was not quite as good as the primary camera (1x with OIS). Whether a cropped 1x photo is better than using the 2x camera is beyond the scope of this comment.
- comex 9y ago
  On the 7 Plus, you can switch between 1x and 2x with a tap, no need to use two hands. :)
- throwanem 9y ago
  In almost any case, the optical zoom is going to give a more detailed result than cropping an image from the stabilized wide-angle camera; that's not really a high enough zoom factor for stabilization to become an issue, except perhaps in the relatively narrow range of situations where there's enough environmental vibration to produce noticeable image degradation, but not so much that the stabilization motors can't compensate. Admittedly, I'm basing this on my experience with a DSLR, rather than any hands-on time (which I haven't had) with an iPhone 7+. That said, since a lot of what I shoot is wildlife, I very frequently use a 70-300mm tele (on a DX body, so 1.5x crop factor and 105-450 35mm equivalent) that isn't stabilized, and it's really only beyond about 250mm (indicated) that I start to have shaky-hands trouble. Anything less than that, and there's not enough detail in the image for stabilization problems to be perceptible. Since the 7+'s tele camera, as best I can find, seems to have a 35mm equivalent focal length of about 56mm (thus 56-112mm, taking the 2x zoom into account), the lack of stabilization doesn't seem likely to pose too much of a problem. (And if it is, you can always brace the camera and take multiple shots - this latter, in particular, I've found to be a pretty good workaround for the lack of stabilization in my own tele, and when an equivalent lens with VR costs half a grand, a pretty good workaround is nice to have! Generally I find that, taking about two exposures per second at full zoom, about one in every six is sharp enough to be a keeper. Something similar would probably work with an iPhone, if stabilization at full zoom proves to be an issue after all - and burst mode would work really well for this.)

grimgrin 9y ago

In jokingly cynical about a few of my friends using a pop socket and maybe they would help one handed shooting. Seems like how they function you could use one hand to hold and still pinch to zoom. Maybe? https://www.popsockets.com https://www.popsockets.com The Amazon reviews are surprisingly good.

cyberferret 9y ago

Maybe not on the native photo app, but one that I regularly use (Camera+) has a slider next to the shutter button that can be used to zoom in out with one finger.

ricw 9y ago

On the 7 plus you can zoom in and out with one hand by dragging the zoom icon left and right.

pvg 9y ago

This may be one of the very few situations in which a perfectly practical, safe and sensible solution begins with 'Hold my beer'.

Whitespace 9y ago

You can use the ooo app to zoom with one hand: http://thisalso.com/projects/ooo http://thisalso.com/projects/ooo or https://itunes.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1182459078?mt=8 https://itunes.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1182459078?mt=8

almostarockstar 9y ago

Genuine question, assuming your not trolling, when was the last time you watched a concert video that you took?

criddell 9y ago
I think a lot of those end up being shared on social media. I'm guessing not many are watched later.

bobbyi_settv 9y ago

Maybe they'll follow that up with a series on how to text while driving