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It saddens me that there are people in our profession for whom implementing such a thing presents no moral or ethical dilemma.
by tjpnz 10y ago
It saddens me that there are people in our profession for whom implementing such a thing presents no moral or ethical dilemma.
- andbberger 10y agoHas nothing to do with morals - people gotta eat
- tspike 10y agoThe alternative in our industry is not starvation.
- bigiain 10y ago"You can’t buy ethics offsets for the terrible things you do at your day job." https://deardesignstudent.com/ethics-cant-be-a-side-hustle-b9e78c090aee https://deardesignstudent.com/ethics-cant-be-a-side-hustle-b... and from the same guy: "Don’t ask how you’re going to pay your rent working ethically. Ask why you’re open to behaving unethically in the first place." https://deardesignstudent.com/ethics-and-paying-rent-86e972ce9015 https://deardesignstudent.com/ethics-and-paying-rent-86e972c...
- bigbugbag 10y agoHas everything to do with ethics and morality. You can eat without being a cog in the mega big machine trying to crush us all.
- ihm 10y agoAgreed. Who is agreeing to build such dystopian technologies?
- grayhatter 10y agoI would totally get interested in building this, have a half-good working prototype. All before I'd even considered that someone else might use it for evil...
- bigbugbag 10y ago> someone else might use it for evil... Correction: Someone will use it for evil. This kind of tech is hot stuff for people engaged in evil.
- ludjer 10y agoIt saddens me that people are complaining about this yet people are doing way worse in our profession like extorting business for money through ransom-ware, hacking personal information and bank accounts, creating robots that kill people. But no people are worried that while walking around in public place a picture is taken of them and an add is changed to target them.
- spuz 10y agoI wouldn't call writing malware 'our profession'. Maybe you are misinterpreting the meaning of 'Hacker' in 'Hacker news'.
- edanm 10y agoIt saddens me that most people refuse to accept that not everybody shares their morals, and that it might be them that are wrong. I'm not saying there isn't an absolute right and wrong, but I certainly don't find this as abhorrent as most people here, apparently.
- lloeki 10y agoSo what am I supposed to do if I find this invading my privacy? Not walk within 10m of such a billboard? It's not like there's any other active way to opt out of this. I suppose a banner saying "you are being tracked" on tom of such a billboard could have quite an interesting effect. Come to think of it I've seen "Smile, you're being recorded!" in some shops.
- erikrothoff 10y agoCurious: If someone sat at a cafe near by and recorded on pen and paper visible details of people walking by, would that be as bad?
- bigbugbag 10y agoYou're supposed to come out at night with a countermeasure masking your face and destroy the billboard. IIRC the countermeasure is quite easy and requires something like a LED and a battery, but I may be wrong it's been 10+ years.
- deadbunny 10y agoAn array of IR LEDs in a hat would probably work.
- NoGravitas 10y agoAnd tbh a balaclava and featureless black clothing would not hurt.
- deadbunny 10y agoEmbrace the cyberpunk future and get a silly haircut/makeup: https://cvdazzle.com/ https://cvdazzle.com/
- blackoil 10y agoHow is any different from Google, Facebook and rest of adverting driven web companies?
- falcolas 10y agoIt's happening in a space previously devoid of such automated tracking.
- thatwebdude 10y agoThe technology interests me and I would gladly work on a system that implemented such features. As an ethical programmer, I'd be sure to incorporate security, anonymization, and be able to draw the line so that I can help businesses make more money (since that's what they pay me for), and advance technology at the same time. This is only unethical when it's used in a system that infers more information aside from general demographics (which, BTW nearly everywhere collects), and makes them vulnerable to interception outside of the pizza company.