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SEE EDIT He also fired the federal judge who ruled against him in Hawaii. So it's not like this is new behavior. Don't worry though, this is fine. Ed:

SEE EDIT ~~ He also fired the federal judge who ruled against him in Hawaii. So it's not like this is new behavior. ~~ Don't worry though, this is fine. Ed: I'm likely misremembering bluster as taking action, since I can't find specific citations. So I retract the comment, and would strike through it (I don't like deleting text), but don't know if I can on HN.

bostonvaulter2 9y ago
Do you have a link for that?
- sriram_sun 9y ago
  So I googled the claim that Trump fired the Federal judge in Hawaii and the answer seems to be that the President cannot fire Federal judges. https://www.quora.com/Can-Donald-Trump-fire-a-federal-judge-for-ruling-against-him https://www.quora.com/Can-Donald-Trump-fire-a-federal-judge-...
dekhn 9y ago
I cannot find any evidence of this claim.
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yeukhon 9y ago
He can't fire a federal judge. There is a due process for impeaching a federal judge from the bench. Neither can Department of Justice (which is part of the executive branch), it is one of the best preserved traditions of our Checks and Balances, despite some of rulings are not agreed by majority (do I have to bring up the stupid ruling of Judge Persky on the People vs Turner case). Therefore, we can't fire or replace a Supreme Court judge except the Congress. You are probably mistaken that for the firing of the acting AOG Sally Yates for mandating Department of Justice to not to defend Trump's travel ban executive order during her tenure, and the termination of New York-based U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara who was known for going after Wall Street scandals (and who, according to Trump, did not return Trump's calls multiple calls). --Edit-- I found [1] to be an interesting article on whether impeachment of a judge is limited to Congress. [1]: http://www.yalelawjournal.org/forum/removing-federal-judges-without-impeachment http://www.yalelawjournal.org/forum/removing-federal-judges-...
- memmcgee 9y ago
  The person more at fault in the Turner case is the probation officer who recommended such a light sentence. The judge idiotically accepted their recommendation. I think the case for idiot judges that really makes the case for me is this one: http://reason.com/blog/2011/03/08/tennessee-cops-posed-as-a-defe http://reason.com/blog/2011/03/08/tennessee-cops-posed-as-a-... TL;DR: a detective impersonated a defense attorney and got the victim to incriminate himself. The original judge in the case let them use the evidence in court and didn't immediately throw that shit to the curb. The appeals judge ripped them a new one though. There's also the case of a judge in Michigan banning a guy from the internet for having a date over Tinder when he accepted a plea deal that the prosecutor then convinced the judge to double back on. https://ballotpedia.org/Dennis_M._Wiley https://ballotpedia.org/Dennis_M._Wiley
  - yeukhon 9y ago
    Well, I think both are idiots. I didn't know the probation office was involved. But judge has the final say in the sentencing. There are many ridiculous rulings, some are harmless and for giggles, but some are seriously fucked-up like Turner's case or those you linked.
jvolkman 9y ago
Maybe you meant "he also fired [tweets at] the federal judge".
evan_ 9y ago
You might be thinking of Preet Bharara, the US Attorney for the Southern District of NY which would have been in charge of prosecuting the Trump corp, who was fired abruptly by Trump after refusing to resign.

SEE EDIT ~~ He also fired the federal judge who ruled against him in Hawaii. So it's not like this is new behavior. ~~ Don't worry though, this is fine. Ed:

bostonvaulter2 9y ago

Do you have a link for that?

sriram_sun 9y ago
So I googled the claim that Trump fired the Federal judge in Hawaii and the answer seems to be that the President cannot fire Federal judges. https://www.quora.com/Can-Donald-Trump-fire-a-federal-judge-for-ruling-against-him https://www.quora.com/Can-Donald-Trump-fire-a-federal-judge-...

dekhn 9y ago

I cannot find any evidence of this claim.

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yeukhon 9y ago

He can't fire a federal judge. There is a due process for impeaching a federal judge from the bench. Neither can Department of Justice (which is part of the executive branch), it is one of the best preserved traditions of our Checks and Balances, despite some of rulings are not agreed by majority (do I have to bring up the stupid ruling of Judge Persky on the People vs Turner case). Therefore, we can't fire or replace a Supreme Court judge except the Congress. You are probably mistaken that for the firing of the acting AOG Sally Yates for mandating Department of Justice to not to defend Trump's travel ban executive order during her tenure, and the termination of New York-based U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara who was known for going after Wall Street scandals (and who, according to Trump, did not return Trump's calls multiple calls). --Edit-- I found [1] to be an interesting article on whether impeachment of a judge is limited to Congress. [1]: http://www.yalelawjournal.org/forum/removing-federal-judges-without-impeachment http://www.yalelawjournal.org/forum/removing-federal-judges-...

memmcgee 9y ago
The person more at fault in the Turner case is the probation officer who recommended such a light sentence. The judge idiotically accepted their recommendation. I think the case for idiot judges that really makes the case for me is this one: http://reason.com/blog/2011/03/08/tennessee-cops-posed-as-a-defe http://reason.com/blog/2011/03/08/tennessee-cops-posed-as-a-... TL;DR: a detective impersonated a defense attorney and got the victim to incriminate himself. The original judge in the case let them use the evidence in court and didn't immediately throw that shit to the curb. The appeals judge ripped them a new one though. There's also the case of a judge in Michigan banning a guy from the internet for having a date over Tinder when he accepted a plea deal that the prosecutor then convinced the judge to double back on. https://ballotpedia.org/Dennis_M._Wiley https://ballotpedia.org/Dennis_M._Wiley
- yeukhon 9y ago
  Well, I think both are idiots. I didn't know the probation office was involved. But judge has the final say in the sentencing. There are many ridiculous rulings, some are harmless and for giggles, but some are seriously fucked-up like Turner's case or those you linked.

jvolkman 9y ago

Maybe you meant "he also fired [tweets at] the federal judge".

evan_ 9y ago

You might be thinking of Preet Bharara, the US Attorney for the Southern District of NY which would have been in charge of prosecuting the Trump corp, who was fired abruptly by Trump after refusing to resign.