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Are people, who are just starting, still building complex chef and puppet systems when Heroku and Elastic Beanstalk exist? .i.e scalability is easy now. It's a
by chaostheory 10y ago
Are people, who are just starting, still building complex chef and puppet systems when Heroku and Elastic Beanstalk exist? .i.e scalability is easy now. It's a click away or even automatic which these types of services. It's also affordable.
- wink 10y agoHow do you think generic configuration management systems are replacable by a hosting provider and some autoscaling system? Honestly curious, I've never seen anyone scale just by "using puppet/chef".
- chaostheory 10y agoI didn't say they were replaceable for everyone and for every scenario. I'm just making the point that small startups no longer need to use them in the beginning if all they want is a way to auto-scale. Yes they made sys admin stuff easier but now it's even easier with scaling services that are already preconfigured. I just think it's strange that people are still discouraging founders to account for scaling when today it's cheap from both a time and money perspective to do from the start.
- korzun 10y ago> scalability is easy now Dumb, often limited scalability is easy now. Elastic Beanstalk approach is only as good as it's the weakest link, which you have no control over. EC2 is having issues with recovering from standby? Good luck getting anywhere. You can sit on the chat with the useless AWS 'technicians' that are paid to waste your time until the issue is corrected.
- chaostheory 10y agoI'm not sure if I'm making myself clear enough. I'm not arguing that this is great for everything. In the context of the post, that's good enough for a lot of apps just starting out WITHOUT the work of setting up something custom and durable ala Netflix's infrastructure.