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> More likely, certain services would be charged tolls upstream Any service that competes with an ISP's service > others would be promoted with discounts. An

> More likely, certain services would be charged tolls upstream Any service that competes with an ISP's service > others would be promoted with discounts. An ISP's or their partner's service. When you have at most 3 but usually only 2 choices for an ISP in a local market, how do you think this will benefit anyone ither than them? My only two choices are comcast and at&t DSL. I live in a dense, wealthy area where people would definitely pay for faster internet in a very large city, but the fastest speed i can get is 60 MBps for $80/month. These two companies are not known for innovation or treating their customers well. Comcast is regularly voted the worst company in America because of its terrible service. Nn removal will add additional costs on trying to get your service noticed since they can arbitrarily put you in the slow lane. How will you be able to compete with an ISP in this landscape?

grandalf 9y ago
Both of your comments will require a bit more in-depth a response. I will do so later on today. Enjoying the discussion.
- FullMtlAlcoholc 9y ago
  Comcast is nearly the worst internet provider and the worst company that has ever received my money. The only worse experience I've ever had is with AT&T. Comcast is also a huge content provider of crap I'd never watch: NBC, CNBC, MSNBC, Bravo, E!, CNBC World. I watch a couple of shows from USA (Mr Robot) and SyFy(The Expanse) that I prefer to purchase by the season. I don't want to live in a world where those stations are fast laned and NEtflix (which will pay), crunchyroll, curiosityTV, youtube (will pay), various documentary streaming sites etc are in the slow lane. One possible resolution I can see where this has a happy ending is that it causes Google, my municipality, etc to enter the ISP market. Unlikely because of the legal costs. More likely option, I'll get SpaceX internet and deal with the 25ms latency. I'm already running a VPN, degrading my service, so that I'm not just another data point for marketers and advertisers to manipulate. Look forward to your response and that you give me some hope
  - Dylan16807 9y ago
    > deal with the 25ms latency Even on that metric there's not a lot of downside vs. typical monopoly/duopoly ISPs. I have 20ms of last-mile latency on ATT.
    - FullMtlAlcoholc 9y ago
      And I'd feel better about where my money is going. It'd be in the hands of someone who actually innovates and invests in the uture

grandalf 9y ago

Both of your comments will require a bit more in-depth a response. I will do so later on today. Enjoying the discussion.

FullMtlAlcoholc 9y ago
Comcast is nearly the worst internet provider and the worst company that has ever received my money. The only worse experience I've ever had is with AT&T. Comcast is also a huge content provider of crap I'd never watch: NBC, CNBC, MSNBC, Bravo, E!, CNBC World. I watch a couple of shows from USA (Mr Robot) and SyFy(The Expanse) that I prefer to purchase by the season. I don't want to live in a world where those stations are fast laned and NEtflix (which will pay), crunchyroll, curiosityTV, youtube (will pay), various documentary streaming sites etc are in the slow lane. One possible resolution I can see where this has a happy ending is that it causes Google, my municipality, etc to enter the ISP market. Unlikely because of the legal costs. More likely option, I'll get SpaceX internet and deal with the 25ms latency. I'm already running a VPN, degrading my service, so that I'm not just another data point for marketers and advertisers to manipulate. Look forward to your response and that you give me some hope
- Dylan16807 9y ago
  > deal with the 25ms latency Even on that metric there's not a lot of downside vs. typical monopoly/duopoly ISPs. I have 20ms of last-mile latency on ATT.
  - FullMtlAlcoholc 9y ago
    And I'd feel better about where my money is going. It'd be in the hands of someone who actually innovates and invests in the uture