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The "free" facebook. - no ads, period - all personal info is held under the watchful eye of a seperate, non-profit org that ensures no personal info is ever s

The "free" facebook. - no ads, period - all personal info is held under the watchful eye of a seperate, non-profit org that ensures no personal info is ever shared with third parties - you can delete your own account whenever you want, and you won't get hassled. An actual deletion of your data, too - all source code is open source, and people can contribute whatever features they want

frankus 19y ago
What "special sauce" does Facebook have that couldn't be implemented as a self-installed "plugin" on a personal web site? - It'd be nice to be able to plug my favorite artist/author/etc. So I'd vote for whatever ads the profile owner wants to put on his/her profile. - Why not have each person's data held under the watchful eye of the hosting provider they're already with? - Last I checked you can delete your 1and1/dreamhost/whatever account any time you want by no longer paying them. - And it could be a GPLed project.
- antiismist 19y ago
  I think these are interesting points, and the dream project would have to be syndicatable so hackers could roll their own pages as you suggest. The issue is that facebook is great because so many people are on it. So for the dream project to work, it has to be really easy to set up. I am guessing that the average user does not want to grab a dreamhost account, install software, etc.
  - wmf 19y ago
    While you're not monetizing things, you might as well create a new Web server OS where it's actually easy to install applications.
    - icky 19y ago
      It's called Debian. ;-)
      - wmf 19y ago
        Does apt-get have a Web 2.0 interface? I'm not aware of one.
        icky 19y ago
        No, but in web 3.0 everything will be in visual text-mode, so aptitude is your best bet. ;)
derefr 19y ago
How do you delete your data when "your" data is mostly other people's relationships to you? For just one obvious problem, other people "own" messages you post to their wall (they get the deletion rights to them, not you.) It's like deleting yourself from others' e-mail archives or RSS feeds--just doesn't make much sense.
- antiismist 19y ago
  What if a user owns messages that they post to other people's walls? The other user could remove bad posts from the wall, but the poster could also claw back the messages too. If it was a thread, it could look like <comment removed>
neilk 19y ago
We should talk. $USERNAME @ brevity dot org.
- antiismist 19y ago
  email sent

frankus 19y ago

What "special sauce" does Facebook have that couldn't be implemented as a self-installed "plugin" on a personal web site? - It'd be nice to be able to plug my favorite artist/author/etc. So I'd vote for whatever ads the profile owner wants to put on his/her profile. - Why not have each person's data held under the watchful eye of the hosting provider they're already with? - Last I checked you can delete your 1and1/dreamhost/whatever account any time you want by no longer paying them. - And it could be a GPLed project.

antiismist 19y ago
I think these are interesting points, and the dream project would have to be syndicatable so hackers could roll their own pages as you suggest. The issue is that facebook is great because so many people are on it. So for the dream project to work, it has to be really easy to set up. I am guessing that the average user does not want to grab a dreamhost account, install software, etc.
- wmf 19y ago
  While you're not monetizing things, you might as well create a new Web server OS where it's actually easy to install applications.
  - icky 19y ago
    It's called Debian. ;-)
    - wmf 19y ago
      Does apt-get have a Web 2.0 interface? I'm not aware of one.
      - icky 19y ago
        No, but in web 3.0 everything will be in visual text-mode, so aptitude is your best bet. ;)

derefr 19y ago

How do you delete your data when "your" data is mostly other people's relationships to you? For just one obvious problem, other people "own" messages you post to their wall (they get the deletion rights to them, not you.) It's like deleting yourself from others' e-mail archives or RSS feeds--just doesn't make much sense.

antiismist 19y ago
What if a user owns messages that they post to other people's walls? The other user could remove bad posts from the wall, but the poster could also claw back the messages too. If it was a thread, it could look like <comment removed>

neilk 19y ago

We should talk. $USERNAME @ brevity dot org.

antiismist 19y ago
email sent