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In some ways the the Pharo fork/branch of Squeak Smalltalk might be seen as an answer answer to the related question of "How would Squeak (Smalltalk) for adults
by e12e 10y ago
In some ways the the Pharo fork/branch of Squeak Smalltalk might be seen as an answer answer to the related question of "How would Squeak (Smalltalk) for adults differ from Squeak".
One problem I see with Scratch is its slow pace in moving forward away from flash and toward something that is easy to self-host: cloud only is great until underpowered Internet at your local library forces kids to stop coding mid session. Flash can sometimes be a challenge to get to work reliably in a modern browser on a pc you might not have admin rights on (compared to something based on fairly conservative js, like https://www.lively-kernel.org/ https://www.lively-kernel.org/).
I've briefly looked at the Berkley snap!-project, and it looks a little easier to get into self-hosting and modifying (but I've yet to do so): https://snap.berkeley.edu/ https://snap.berkeley.edu/
In the same breath, I should probably also mention croquet/cobalt - although it appears no one has yet picked it up and ported it to the new generation of vr headsets:
http://www.opencobalt.net/ http://www.opencobalt.net/
To save some searching:
http://pharo.org/ http://pharo.org/
http://squeak.org/ http://squeak.org/
- jackewiehose 10y agoIt's frustrating to upvote a post that favours flash over any other technology but I have to agree with you. I don't like this always-online trend for all kinds of applications. (generally spoken - I don't know the scratch situation)