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> Why isn't there a Scratch for adults? What exactly would be different between a Scratch for kids and a Scratch for adults?

• e12e 10y ago
  In some ways the the Pharo fork/branch of Squeak Smalltalk might be seen as an answer answer to the related question of "How would Squeak (Smalltalk) for adults differ from Squeak". One problem I see with Scratch is its slow pace in moving forward away from flash and toward something that is easy to self-host: cloud only is great until underpowered Internet at your local library forces kids to stop coding mid session. Flash can sometimes be a challenge to get to work reliably in a modern browser on a pc you might not have admin rights on (compared to something based on fairly conservative js, like https://www.lively-kernel.org/ https://www.lively-kernel.org/). I've briefly looked at the Berkley snap!-project, and it looks a little easier to get into self-hosting and modifying (but I've yet to do so): https://snap.berkeley.edu/ https://snap.berkeley.edu/ In the same breath, I should probably also mention croquet/cobalt - although it appears no one has yet picked it up and ported it to the new generation of vr headsets: http://www.opencobalt.net/ http://www.opencobalt.net/ To save some searching: http://pharo.org/ http://pharo.org/ http://squeak.org/ http://squeak.org/
  • jackewiehose 9y ago
    It's frustrating to upvote a post that favours flash over any other technology but I have to agree with you. I don't like this always-online trend for all kinds of applications. (generally spoken - I don't know the scratch situation)