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>> I'd say that people mostly do not know what is running in industry well if anyone does know what's out there then HN crowd would be a pretty good suspect in

>> I'd say that people mostly do not know what is running in industry well if anyone does know what's out there then HN crowd would be a pretty good suspect in that regard. I personally have done my fair share of consulting and prof services engagements - dozens of them across all kinds of industries - I've never seen a Haskell shop. Java, Python, JS, Golang, Scala, Clojure, .Net, C, PHP - definitely out there in the field. Haskell - not so much.

pyre 9y ago
An ex-co-worker went to work at JanRain with Haskell: http://www.janrain.com/blog/haskell-janrain/ http://www.janrain.com/blog/haskell-janrain/
forgottenpass 9y ago
well if anyone does know what's out there then HN crowd would be a pretty good suspect in that regard. HN is a comically bad barometer for anything other than what's trendy in norcal.
- cwyers 9y ago
  It's not as bad as you say, exactly. Yes, some trendy languages are overrepresented (coughRustcough), and there are people with blinders on about what programming outside the Valley is like. But there's way too much .NET, Java and such posted for HN to be wholly unaware of trends in the broader industry. Java may see some use in NorCal, but I really doubt C# does anywhere near as much as it pops up here.
marcosdumay 9y ago
Your experience may be biased. If I had a shop that depended on external consultants for development, I'd avoid any language that I'm not certain to be mainstream. It's just too risky.
- haskellandchill 9y ago
  I can name two Haskell consultancies off the top of my head :)
  - marcosdumay 9y ago
    But what if those two are busy right now? What if geography is a problem? Compare with how many Java consultancies do you think you can find on a quick search? I don't think the Haskell development labor market is nearly liquid enough to rely on consultants. For full time jobs the picture is very different.
    - dllthomas 9y ago
      > But what if those two are busy right now? Then he'll have to look up some that he can't name off the top of his head? I can't name any Java consultancies, but I'm nonetheless confident that there are plenty... With regard to Haskell, there are a lot of people interested in Haskell work compared to the number of positions presently available.

pyre 9y ago

An ex-co-worker went to work at JanRain with Haskell: http://www.janrain.com/blog/haskell-janrain/ http://www.janrain.com/blog/haskell-janrain/

forgottenpass 9y ago

well if anyone does know what's out there then HN crowd would be a pretty good suspect in that regard. HN is a comically bad barometer for anything other than what's trendy in norcal.

cwyers 9y ago
It's not as bad as you say, exactly. Yes, some trendy languages are overrepresented (coughRustcough), and there are people with blinders on about what programming outside the Valley is like. But there's way too much .NET, Java and such posted for HN to be wholly unaware of trends in the broader industry. Java may see some use in NorCal, but I really doubt C# does anywhere near as much as it pops up here.

marcosdumay 9y ago

Your experience may be biased. If I had a shop that depended on external consultants for development, I'd avoid any language that I'm not certain to be mainstream. It's just too risky.

haskellandchill 9y ago
I can name two Haskell consultancies off the top of my head :)
- marcosdumay 9y ago
  But what if those two are busy right now? What if geography is a problem? Compare with how many Java consultancies do you think you can find on a quick search? I don't think the Haskell development labor market is nearly liquid enough to rely on consultants. For full time jobs the picture is very different.
  - dllthomas 9y ago
    > But what if those two are busy right now? Then he'll have to look up some that he can't name off the top of his head? I can't name any Java consultancies, but I'm nonetheless confident that there are plenty... With regard to Haskell, there are a lot of people interested in Haskell work compared to the number of positions presently available.