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Give description of 'free will' so that it can't be replaced with 'chaotic', 'non deterministic' or 'random'. So far nobody has been able to do that.

• CuriouslyC 9y ago
  Give me proof of the existence of true randomness without referencing wavefunction realization. I think free will is the ability to make conscious choices. These choices are guided by a chaotic, but ultimately deterministic preference function, which itself can be modified by conscious choice. You could argue that the deterministic preference function is a negation of free will, but I think the separation in the causal chain between condition and response is significant. There are lots of cases where there is no experience of choice mediating the transition from condition to response, so I think that feeling is indicative of something meaningful.
  • HONEST_ANNIE 9y ago
    >but I think the separation in the causal chain between condition and response is significant. Term 'free will' seems to be thought terminating cliche. It seems poetic and deeply meaningful but descriptions as yours say it's just 'deterministic action interrupted with coin flips'. From the subjective point of view it does not matter if action is deterministic or arbitrary coin flip. There is no 'freedom' in free will.
  • marcosdumay 9y ago
    If your bar for consciousness emulation is quantum randomness, I'm glad to tell you that computers are great on getting this one too. Yes, it's outside the scope of pure Turing machines, but that is of little relevance.