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Diane Feinstein is old and needs to retire. She is completely out of touch with the needs of her constituency, and comes off more like an old guard republican

Diane Feinstein is old and needs to retire. She is completely out of touch with the needs of her constituency, and comes off more like an old guard republican rather then a democrat that she is supposed to be.

masterleep 9y ago
She is such a ghastly warmonger.
callahad 9y ago
Her term is up in November of next year. Time to start prepping a suitable challenger.
- rhizome 9y ago
  AFAIK, Ted Lieu is the only person that any opposition has produced, and I'm not sure who else is even in a position to primary Feinstein. Starchild ain't gonna cut it.
dv_dt 9y ago
There are at least two announced Democratic primary challengers to Feinstein.
- guelo 9y ago
  I don't believe that is true. A quick Google search turned up nothing.
  - dv_dt 9y ago
    http://www.davidforcalifornia.com/ http://www.davidforcalifornia.com/ Uhh, I think I'm blanking on the other. Both will likely lose, but maybe it will make her look over shoulder and keep closer to her constituents.
    - greeneggs 9y ago
      Michael Eisen http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/01/qa-michael-eisen-wants-be-first-evolutionary-biologist-us-senate http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/01/qa-michael-eisen-want... Feinstein is now 83. I don't think she has announced either way, but it is likely she'll retire. If so, then there will probably be a lot of candidates.
      - rosser 9y ago
        Last I'd heard (KQED, a couple months ago), she was raising money for the race. So, unfortunately, probably not.
rdiddly 9y ago
Unfortunately the Democrats have been trying to out-Republican the Republicans since the Clinton administration. (When the party really embraced getting all married-up with wealthy donors, and inevitably turned its back on its traditional roots.)
- bsder 9y ago
  Incumbency is difficult to upset. Feinstein is just old and out of touch. She still thinks that Hollywood is an economic driving force in California. Kumala Harris is our replacement for Boxer. Hopefully we can get someone a little more liberal to replace Feinstein.
sidlls 9y ago
> comes off more like an old guard republican rather then a democrat This is true of most Democrats these days, except when they want to pander to minorities or other disadvantaged groups who could use real, actual allies instead of the panderers. I am amazed and humbled by these folks' perseverance in the face of a two party system in which one party apparently hates them and the other thinks so little of them that their best efforts at being allies generally consists of terrible pandering.
- favorited 9y ago
  Maybe many minorities and members of disadvantaged groups don't like being told that the pressing issues which affect their communities are just "identity politics," which seems to me to happen a lot lately.
  - sidlls 9y ago
    Of course; it's insulting to have these issues reduced to a phrase like that. It's also insulting to have these issues reduced to a plug on the campaign trail and then ignored for the next year or two until the next big campaign, or used as a weapon by one rich old white lady against an affluent old Jewish guy to score political points (for example). You want to see the typical Democratic interaction with minorities on a political level? Look at Flint, during the Primaries and general election, and compare it to now.
averagewall 9y ago
Luckily you have democracy so her California voters can remove her. They apparently want to keep her so she should stay.
- jrs95 9y ago
  That's assuming voters are rational actors which is clearly not the case
  - adventured 9y ago
    Nothing the parent said assumes voters are rational. They pointed out that CA voters can remove her. True. They pointed out she's still there, so the plausible majority of the people that cast votes must have wanted to elect her vs the opposition choice (as of the last election). True.
    - jrs95 9y ago
      It does say that the voters wanted her there. I don't think they're engaged enough for that to be the case. Even if there were a grassroots attempt to do this, it would fail without substantial political and monetary support, because voters as a whole are not paying anywhere near enough attention to make informed decisions about these things in my opinion. When they even bother to show up.
  - guntars 9y ago
    I love how it's always the "other" voters that are irrational and voting against their best interests, never the observer.
    - yjftsjthsd-h 9y ago
      Your point is fair, but keep in mind that if people considered their own behavior rational then they would probably change it...
    - jrs95 9y ago
      I didn't intend for this to be a 100% thing, I think there are a decent number of people who are probably a lot more well informed than I am, but when the large majority of voters opinions are so easily manipulated as to effectively be for sale, then what the hell is the point? It's not much different than an oligarchy, but it's made a bit better because our overlords have a lot of hoops to jump through the keep the show running.
burntrelish1273 9y ago
Exactly. She's a decrepit, arrogant Republican whom also wants to assassinate Snowden. She needs to be primaryed into history. There's a post-partisan, grassroots PAC to do exactly that: https://brandnewcongress.org/ https://brandnewcongress.org/ https://twitter.com/BrandNew535 https://twitter.com/BrandNew535

masterleep 9y ago

She is such a ghastly warmonger.

callahad 9y ago

Her term is up in November of next year. Time to start prepping a suitable challenger.

rhizome 9y ago
AFAIK, Ted Lieu is the only person that any opposition has produced, and I'm not sure who else is even in a position to primary Feinstein. Starchild ain't gonna cut it.

dv_dt 9y ago

There are at least two announced Democratic primary challengers to Feinstein.

guelo 9y ago
I don't believe that is true. A quick Google search turned up nothing.
- dv_dt 9y ago
  http://www.davidforcalifornia.com/ http://www.davidforcalifornia.com/ Uhh, I think I'm blanking on the other. Both will likely lose, but maybe it will make her look over shoulder and keep closer to her constituents.
  - greeneggs 9y ago
    Michael Eisen http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/01/qa-michael-eisen-wants-be-first-evolutionary-biologist-us-senate http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/01/qa-michael-eisen-want... Feinstein is now 83. I don't think she has announced either way, but it is likely she'll retire. If so, then there will probably be a lot of candidates.
    - rosser 9y ago
      Last I'd heard (KQED, a couple months ago), she was raising money for the race. So, unfortunately, probably not.

rdiddly 9y ago

Unfortunately the Democrats have been trying to out-Republican the Republicans since the Clinton administration. (When the party really embraced getting all married-up with wealthy donors, and inevitably turned its back on its traditional roots.)

bsder 9y ago
Incumbency is difficult to upset. Feinstein is just old and out of touch. She still thinks that Hollywood is an economic driving force in California. Kumala Harris is our replacement for Boxer. Hopefully we can get someone a little more liberal to replace Feinstein.

sidlls 9y ago

> comes off more like an old guard republican rather then a democrat This is true of most Democrats these days, except when they want to pander to minorities or other disadvantaged groups who could use real, actual allies instead of the panderers. I am amazed and humbled by these folks' perseverance in the face of a two party system in which one party apparently hates them and the other thinks so little of them that their best efforts at being allies generally consists of terrible pandering.

favorited 9y ago
Maybe many minorities and members of disadvantaged groups don't like being told that the pressing issues which affect their communities are just "identity politics," which seems to me to happen a lot lately.
- sidlls 9y ago
  Of course; it's insulting to have these issues reduced to a phrase like that. It's also insulting to have these issues reduced to a plug on the campaign trail and then ignored for the next year or two until the next big campaign, or used as a weapon by one rich old white lady against an affluent old Jewish guy to score political points (for example). You want to see the typical Democratic interaction with minorities on a political level? Look at Flint, during the Primaries and general election, and compare it to now.

averagewall 9y ago

Luckily you have democracy so her California voters can remove her. They apparently want to keep her so she should stay.

jrs95 9y ago
That's assuming voters are rational actors which is clearly not the case
- adventured 9y ago
  Nothing the parent said assumes voters are rational. They pointed out that CA voters can remove her. True. They pointed out she's still there, so the plausible majority of the people that cast votes must have wanted to elect her vs the opposition choice (as of the last election). True.
  - jrs95 9y ago
    It does say that the voters wanted her there. I don't think they're engaged enough for that to be the case. Even if there were a grassroots attempt to do this, it would fail without substantial political and monetary support, because voters as a whole are not paying anywhere near enough attention to make informed decisions about these things in my opinion. When they even bother to show up.
- guntars 9y ago
  I love how it's always the "other" voters that are irrational and voting against their best interests, never the observer.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 9y ago
    Your point is fair, but keep in mind that if people considered their own behavior rational then they would probably change it...
  - jrs95 9y ago
    I didn't intend for this to be a 100% thing, I think there are a decent number of people who are probably a lot more well informed than I am, but when the large majority of voters opinions are so easily manipulated as to effectively be for sale, then what the hell is the point? It's not much different than an oligarchy, but it's made a bit better because our overlords have a lot of hoops to jump through the keep the show running.

burntrelish1273 9y ago

Exactly. She's a decrepit, arrogant Republican whom also wants to assassinate Snowden. She needs to be primaryed into history. There's a post-partisan, grassroots PAC to do exactly that: https://brandnewcongress.org/ https://brandnewcongress.org/ https://twitter.com/BrandNew535 https://twitter.com/BrandNew535