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I specifically said it's not malicious, it's in reaction to my level of creativity. It's how I operate. > Honestly, you don't sound professional. > if you fe

I specifically said it's not malicious, it's in reaction to my level of creativity. It's how I operate. > Honestly, you don't sound professional. > if you feel comfortable being that shameless and unethical If you can work at 100% capacity at your job all the the time, great for you. If not, then you are either completely honest with your employers about it ("I didn't get anything done this week because I'm burned out") or you do the exact same things and are taking some sort of moral high ground in your post to feel superior. It's fine if you don't agree with me giving honest advice, but keep the moral judgements to yourself when they are most likely based in hypocrisy. EDIT: Also, just want to reiterate: this happens once in a while. I'm not doing this every day. Maybe you should re-read my post?

superplussed 10y ago
As I said in my comments, it's not about not being at 100% capacity all of the time. No-one is, but there are honest ways to communicate that. What's crazy to me is strategically lying to your employers IN ADVANCE, to set yourself up to not do any work. Especially given that you are posting it under your name.
- orthecreedence 10y ago
  Oh, perhaps I wasn't clear. When I say I allot a week for something (5 days), that task, working at a normal pace, would probably take 3-4 days. I'm not asking for a week when it takes a day. I'm asking for 1.5x how much I think it will take to pad. Normal practice. However sometimes, I am just not able to work on that project for a few days, and end up doing it all in one day/night after having a few days to thinking about it. For me, a good chunk of the job is thinking about it. The coding just kind of flows after that. The problem is that the thinking gets delayed =]
- switch007 10y ago
  Employers never IN ADVANCE plan to lie to employees, right? If you ask your boss a question, you ALWAYS get a truthful answer. Life isn't black and white. What if they're a 55 year old in tech? I could imagine someone being scared shitless of saying they're "burnt out"
- fnovd 10y ago
  I think the difference here is that you see recharging as "not doing work" while the person you are responding to sees it as part of a natural work cycle.
marcosdumay 10y ago
I don't think it's moral judgment. The GP reads more like advice.
- orthecreedence 10y ago
  You're wrong. Being called "unprofessional" and shamelessly "unethical" are moral judgements. Yes, there was some advice sprinkled in: ("Don't say this out loud"). Frankly though, my employers are quite happy with me. I do incredible work, and often beat my deadlines to deliver systems that are above and beyond the scope of what was originally intended. I just have some off periods sometimes, and I have no trouble giving an honest account of my experience to someone who also shares the same problem and needs advice.
  - marcosdumay 10y ago
    Reading it again, yes, you are right.
mangodrunk 10y ago
I don't see anything wrong in what you said. I would go further, and I see our work culture as what is wrong. Very few vacation days and having to work too much. Having to work for healthcare (if you're in the US). I would wish we took a step back, and actually thought what we would really want instead of having to work all the time.

superplussed 10y ago

As I said in my comments, it's not about not being at 100% capacity all of the time. No-one is, but there are honest ways to communicate that. What's crazy to me is strategically lying to your employers IN ADVANCE, to set yourself up to not do any work. Especially given that you are posting it under your name.

orthecreedence 10y ago
Oh, perhaps I wasn't clear. When I say I allot a week for something (5 days), that task, working at a normal pace, would probably take 3-4 days. I'm not asking for a week when it takes a day. I'm asking for 1.5x how much I think it will take to pad. Normal practice. However sometimes, I am just not able to work on that project for a few days, and end up doing it all in one day/night after having a few days to thinking about it. For me, a good chunk of the job is thinking about it. The coding just kind of flows after that. The problem is that the thinking gets delayed =]
switch007 10y ago
Employers never IN ADVANCE plan to lie to employees, right? If you ask your boss a question, you ALWAYS get a truthful answer. Life isn't black and white. What if they're a 55 year old in tech? I could imagine someone being scared shitless of saying they're "burnt out"
fnovd 10y ago
I think the difference here is that you see recharging as "not doing work" while the person you are responding to sees it as part of a natural work cycle.

marcosdumay 10y ago

I don't think it's moral judgment. The GP reads more like advice.

orthecreedence 10y ago
You're wrong. Being called "unprofessional" and shamelessly "unethical" are moral judgements. Yes, there was some advice sprinkled in: ("Don't say this out loud"). Frankly though, my employers are quite happy with me. I do incredible work, and often beat my deadlines to deliver systems that are above and beyond the scope of what was originally intended. I just have some off periods sometimes, and I have no trouble giving an honest account of my experience to someone who also shares the same problem and needs advice.
- marcosdumay 10y ago
  Reading it again, yes, you are right.

mangodrunk 10y ago

I don't see anything wrong in what you said. I would go further, and I see our work culture as what is wrong. Very few vacation days and having to work too much. Having to work for healthcare (if you're in the US). I would wish we took a step back, and actually thought what we would really want instead of having to work all the time.